Do I take new job or stay where I am?

PlutoinCapricorn

A 50% staff turnover should be a big red flag for the trustees, who should also have designed and implemented an anti-fraud policy. I think that sooner or later the day of reckoning will come, and perhaps you would do well to be elsewhere at that time.

mum2one

I would get the heck out of there, and when you go blow the whistle, I was n a situ yrs ago where I blew the whistle, but it actually back fired on me, as the information wasn't acted on in the correct manner ie - look into it, what happened was the person who I made the allegation against was told........ my working life was very difficult, - as this was not the first time incidents had happened, the person then proceeded to walk over not just me but other colleagues, till about 4 months later and all hell broke lose, as one of the colleagues - put in a complaint, it was on the lines of what I had said.

While this 4 month period was going on, I kept a copy of every piece of documents, from the original which showed the "fault" to the paperwork which was submitted, - it turned out to be i was the only one of 3 of us in the same position to cover my rear...

This all came out, the person resigned, my working life was made hell, I was even threatened with the police by my employer, for being involved in the cover up, but as I had proof that I had whistle blown previously - they decided they didnt want any bad publicity.... my working life was made hell. Thou I had the last laugh as I sued them for unfair constructive dismissal...

Surely with a 50% turnover this should be causing concern, I know from university studies that one business book said the average person only spends 3 yrs in a job....

Reading between the lines, (my assumptions) are that this is not a new issue and I would assume be a reason why people have left,

My advice - Get out and shop the lot - in this day and age you have to protect yourself.

Money wise - you say 2k a yr less, apr £40 a week, but as theres less money, you will be paying a bit less tax, so you could get some back, and look for promotion within the company... xx

PlutoinCapricorn

http://www.charityfraudline.co.uk/about

Judgejudy

Thanks to everyone for all your input. I've been keeping notes about certain things that I've felt are 'untoward'.

Regarding the lower salary - I'm not sure that's a problem. I just feel that I'm being disloyal leaving. Still I guess that's a silly way to think.

marie2000

Leave. You will get drawn into the issues in your current organisation. He may attempt to blame you in an effort to hide his tracks. Ask why did the last person who held the job leave?

elsien

Judgejudy wrote: »

Regarding the lower salary - I'm not sure that's a problem. I just feel that I'm being disloyal leaving. Still I guess that's a silly way to think.

That's partly how charities work - people are drawn to them because of their values and because in addition to a good/interesting job they feel they're doing something worthwhile. And that's not a bad thing - why shouldn't you get as much satisfaction as you can from your work on a personal level?

However (and I say this as someone who's spent their working life in the charity field) the bottom line is that they are also businesses who wouldn't hesitate in letting you go if circumstances changed and they couldn't afford you any more. And they have to operate within the rules and regulations they are set up under. There's no get out clause because "they're a good cause and mean well." The only people letting the charity down are those who are on the fiddle, and those who let them.

PlutoinCapricorn

I imagine that tomorrow will be a difficult day for you in many ways. It is to your credit that you feel as though you are letting them down, but sometimes it is best for badly-run charities to come to an end.

If you do decide to take things further, Googling charity expense fraud or similar will pull out a lot of information. Really the trustees should have allowed for this and operated according to this guide:

http://www.cfg.org.uk/resources/Publications/~/media/Files/Resources/CFDG%20Publications/charity_fraud_guide_full.ashx

Lucasdemoley

It an interesting point you make about discovering issues and if you should report them. Really we have a duty to report untoward things that go on, whether it is a H&S matter or fraud. You need to consider how complicit you would be in any fraud case considering you have knowledge of the going on and are processing the payments. Personally, whether its a charity or a public body or a private company, fraud it fraud and you don't want to be any part of it.

It is clear things can't continue as they are, so you could make a report about the suspected fraud but it would be hell working there, so getting out is IMO the best idea. I would wait to be settled in your new job before reporting the fraud. This is to avoid any 'reference' issues from your previous manager who might be annoyed at you reporting him. Alternatively, there might be a lot of misconception about how fraudulent he is being, and it could be worth having a conversation with him about some of the things you have seen (maybe if a colleague is also doing it, raise it about the colleague and see what he says), depends how well you know him, but at least it makes him aware that maybe he needs to shape up, as sometimes over a number of years of no-one questioning its slowly got worse and worse and he's never really stepped back from the situation and looked at what he is doing. At the end of the day, we are talking pittance, and I can't see why someone would risk their career or their credibility for that.

ACG

https://www.gov.uk/complain-about-charity

If people are giving money to a charity they expect it to be used for the right thing. It should be reported.

Armorica

Far too many charities are run corruptly - you'll know the magnitude of the fraud relative to the scale of the organisation. It's one for the charity commission to potentially investigate.