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Rejected appeal from VCS - Referred to IAS

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Hi everyone!

Thanks to everyone who set up this forum! Super useful information here!

Unfortunately wish I had found this before..

I parked in an area managed by VCS (Vehicle Control Services) and displayed a guest permit filling in the details of my car and the date. I usually do this regularly with no problems.

On 28/11/14 I received a windscreen notice and did the appeals service online providing them with the photo of the permit. Today, they have rejected my appeal and provided me with details to appeal to the IAS.

From reading in this forum, I realize I should have waited for the NTK before doing anything. Searching through the threads on this forum, I gather that it might be pointless to appeal to the IAS.

Can anyone offer some advice?

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  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,368 Forumite
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    The chances of getting an impartial adjudication from the IAS is very much doubted based on the way appeals have been disdainfully treated, and there have been some pretty watertight appeals (that we know from vast experience would have won easily at POPLA), but were almost summarily dismissed by an unnamed IAS adjudicator.

    So whether you think it worth spending your time on exploring this avenue (more appropriately 'one-way street') is your call. Whatever the IAS decision is, it is only binding on the operator, not the motorist. So you are not compelled to pay if (when!) you lose.

    If you refuse to pay now or after an appeal loss you need to wait and see what the PPC's next move will be. It could be one of three:

    1. Drop things and forget all about your case (unlikely);
    2. Hand your case over to (powerless) debt collectors to hassle you with letters (most likely approach);
    3. Issue court papers (possible, but they're not likely to be able to do this for every one of the high incidence of ignorers/refuseniks) - we can help if they do pursue you via this route.

    As I said, how you move forward on this is your call.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    Actually, to have one's appeal disallowed by the Red Cow Gang is something of a badge of honour. If the PPC takes you to court on the strength of it you can show it to the judge while at the same time mentioning Dreyfus and kangeroos.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 151,856 Forumite
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    edited 29 December 2014 at 1:20AM
    Doesn't matter if you had found us before, we still tell people not to bother with the IAS! Just ignore the PPC and collect the silly debt collector letters. Only take seriously court papers which we can help you defend (very rare).

    You could send a Notice of Cancellation to VCS (which is basically the final few parts of the template first appeal I wrote in the NEWBIES thread) and tell them why you won't be availing yourself of the kind 'offer' of the IAS, because it is not seen to be impartial and has been widely derided for its ridiculous, anonymous and patronisingly rude decisions in favour of PPCs and their unfair expectation for the appellant to prove things they cannot possibly prove, whilst expecting nothing from the PPC.
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