Unable to source plaster ceiling rose to match existing

abankerbutnotafatcat

Hello,
Title is fairly self-explanatory. After initially searching the sheds and then the internet to try to find ceiling roses to match the one in our 1900 house we approached 5 local plaster mouldings specialists, sending them a photo.

The first sniffly told us it was made by Artex and sold in B&Q. After a very helpful response from Artex, we ascertained that neither was true. Artex say they have never made it.

Long story short, none of the plaster mouldings specialists has it or has any idea where we could try to find it. I am a bit surprised as I had thought they were probably relatively standard and that vast amounts of other houses of our era would have had the same and that they would therefore be reproduced somewhere.

My query, I don't expect anyone to be able to source it where 5 plaster mouldings specialists can't but I wondered:
1) any ideas at all for further attempts to source it; and
2) my interest is now piqued, were ceiling roses individually made because if they were from a mould why haven't I been able to find it?

Many thanks for reading.

Avoriaz

I can't answer your questions but I can suggest that, if you can't match an existing rose, then buy a matching pair and replace that existing one.

freezspirit

Couldn't one of the specialist make a mould of ceiling rose in situ or if the ceiling rose can come down so they can make a moulding and cast new ones?

27col

Avoriaz wrote: »

I can't answer your questions but I can suggest that, if you can't match an existing rose, then buy a matching pair and replace that existing one.

The above is pretty obvious.

martinthebandit

freezspirit wrote: »

Couldn't one of the specialist make a mould of ceiling rose in situ or if the ceiling rose can come down so they can make a moulding and cast new ones?

If it was me I would be tempted to make the mould myself and maybe flog a few ceiling roses on ffleabag.

abankerbutnotafatcat

Avoriaz wrote: »

I can't answer your questions but I can suggest that, if you can't match an existing rose, then buy a matching pair and replace that existing one.

As the existing one is a period feature, I'd rather just keep the one original than have a matching set of unauthentic ones. There is one per room so it's fine to just have one.

I wouldn't have a clue how to make a mould myself. I'll google it though, thanks.

Yes, I'd've thought the mouldings companies would have been able to custom make them but none of them offered. Next time I approach one I'll ask.

Bennifred

If you can find an independent Master Plasterer, they would make one for you, I'm sure.

cyclonebri1

Avoriaz wrote: »

I can't answer your questions but I can suggest that, if you can't match an existing rose, then buy a matching pair and replace that existing one.

Yes, it's a glaringly obvious solution, 1 I'm guessing the OP must adopt :T:T

abankerbutnotafatcat

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Yes, it's a glaringly obvious solution, 1 I'm guessing the OP must adopt :T:T

Nope, I definitely won't be removing one of the few remaining period features. It's just a cosmetic feature so the other rooms are fine without one, it would have just been nice to restore them if I could have.

Incidentally, I have found that the outer edge is called dentil pattern and the inner edge is egg and claw. The rest is plain.

Owain_Moneysaver

Bennifred wrote: »

If you can find an independent Master Plasterer, they would make one for you, I'm sure.

You can probably scan it in 3-D with lasers or something now then get one printed on a 3-D printer.

If it's one per room it's quite possible that the rooms had different designs originally anyway.

trailingspouse

I agree with Owain above - our 1900's house has ceiling roses in the lounge and the dining room - they are original to the house, and completely different from each other.