Debt Recovery Notice

Mili88

Hi Everyone,

Back in early September I went on Holiday with my son for two weeks. When I came back I saw two PCN on my car. My car was parked outside my house in a residential parking bay. I have a resident permit but unfortunately as I have either closed the door or gotten my son out of the car the permit flipped over from the dashboard.

I have immediately appealed both PCN and the appeal got rejected. I appealed a second time and that appeal got rejected as well. The third time I appealed to IAS however PCM recently have informed me that my appeal to IAS has not been logged. I have tried to contact them over the phone however they do not have a telephone contact line.

I have recently received 3 debt recovery letters asking me to pay a fine of £160 each. I have called them to ask why I have received 3 letters and they have informed me that a 3rd PCN was issued on my car in early September of which I was not aware of and PCN did not inform me of this neither during the phone conversations I had with them nor via letter.

In my appeals I have tried to make it clear that a) I am a resident of this estate and possess a valid parking permit which was issued by PCM. I have also informed them with proof that I was away for that week and think it is unfair to issue several tickets for the same week in which I could not have checked my car.

My question here is: What is the worst case scenario that can happen if I ignore the Debt Recovery Notice? I am willing to go to court to dispute this as I believe this is ridiculous.

I called Debt Recovery to explain this situation and they have offered me a 20% discount on the whole amount. If it is a genuine fault why would they offer me a discount on PCNs? This was a bit suspicious to me.

I would appreciate any feedback or knowledge in regards of this situation.

Sorry for the long threat.

xxx

bod1467

Worst case is that the landowner or parking company raise small claims court action to recover the alleged debt. If a claim is raised then you defend it.

The debt recovery company have no authority to raise a claim in court, and even the parking company probably don't (although that might not stop them). So you ignore (but file away) any correspondence from the debt recovery company, or you send them a Debt Denied So Stop The Harassment letter.

ALL of this is covered in the NEWBIES thread.

PS - I don't think PCM are litigious at the moment.

Redx

ignore any letters EXCEPT an LBC or an MCOL (court papers)

ignore DRP and dont phone them at all

complain strongly to the landowner and management agency about harassment

if necessary, if its your own space and you have the right to park there (in writing) , threaten court action of your own

Coupon-mad

I called Debt Recovery to explain this situation

Stop ringing a debt collector and start ignoring them. You would have lost at IAS anyway; that farce is explained here:

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/independent-parking-committee-kangaroo.html

Just sit tight. We don't need to hear about all the letters as you can find them discussed far too many times here already. Also on pepipoo, see the links here:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=93846&st=0&gopid=1031703

Just laugh at the letters and collect them in a file - they will soon give up. Only take seriously real court papers or a Letter Before Claim from PCM or Gladstones or another Solicitor (NOT a bog-standard threatogram letter from DRP or Zenith or PCS!!).

The_Deep

Look at it this way. YOU parked in YOUR allotted space. Has anyone been inconvenienced? Has anyone lost money.

Why should a firm of knuckle dragging ex-clampers want you to pay them £££? Tell them to do one.

The chances of them taking you to court are minimal, they have to show that your actions were in breach of a contract, and even if they could, which is unlikely, they can only clain for losses caused as a result of your breach.

They cannot claim for the their muppet's shoe laces, for the cost of obtaining your details from the DLVA , or for their signs. It is all a big con, backed up by threats of court action, CCJs, and a blot on you credit rating, it is all urine and flatulence.

My advice would be to send them taunting see you in court @rsehole letters, but if you want a quiet life, follow the advice on here.

fisherjim

The_Deep wrote: »

Look at it this way. YOU parked in YOUR allotted space. Has anyone been inconvenienced? Has anyone lost money.

Why should a firm of knuckle dragging ex-clampers want you to pay them £££? Tell them to do one.

The chances of them taking you to court are minimal, they have to show that your actions were in breach of a contract, and even if they could, which is unlikely, they can only clain for losses caused as a result of your breach.

They cannot claim for the their muppet's shoe laces, for the cost of obtaining your details from the DLVA , or for their signs. It is all a big con, backed up by threats of court action, CCJs, and a blot on you credit rating, it is all urine and flatulence.

My advice would be to send them taunting see you in court @rsehole letters, but if you want a quiet life, follow the advice on here.

I love it when you get angry!:kisses3: