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  • ellives
    ellives Posts: 635 Forumite
    edited 26 December 2014 at 11:36PM
    Cedral is great!

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    Our house is early 1950s with a pretty plain brick exterior; we think the concrete cladding works a treat. People didn't even realise it wasn't wood until I told them!

    I bought mine from a guy in Essex as it happens; at a bargain price too.

    Ellives
  • Furts
    Furts Posts: 4,474 Forumite
    edited 27 December 2014 at 2:17PM
    ellives wrote: »
    Cedral is great!

    imagejpg1-1.jpg

    imagejpg1-2.jpg

    Our house is early 1950s with a pretty plain brick exterior; we think the concrete cladding works a treat. People didn't even realise it wasn't wood until I told them!

    I bought mine from a guy in Essex as it happens; at a bargain price too.

    Ellives
    From a developer's perspective I can see the attraction. But if this is by fixing Natural Boards will they have the requisite backing strips, the requisite membranes and all the coats of stain carefully applied? The answer is likely to be no, hence leaving the future problems to the purchaser.

    There is no denying that your house has kerb appeal, but the original brickwork lasted 60 years with probably no maintenance. Your work has incurred cost in the purchase and fixing of the boards, plus the ongoing maintenance of cleaning, plus re-decorating every five years.

    Many people would not be prepared to factor in this cost and maintenance. We live in an age where "maintenance free" sells, so I suspect that Cedral will remain a niche product. Perhaps a pity - estates of brick houses can look boring, but a render coating is an easier option for new build, and with easier long term maintenance.
  • EssexExile
    EssexExile Posts: 6,454 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited 27 December 2014 at 3:18PM
    OK we'll try this photo thing, fingers crossed.
    No that didn't work, I might try later once I've put some more coal on the computer.
    Try this link:
    https://picasaweb.google.com/101964703236123330915/OddsEnds?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCMfOzbafpf-viQE&feat=directlink

    The main body of the house is 1950s, the ugly square box is 1970s & the bit above that to the right of the downpipe is 2000s. In fact the biggest difference is probably the mortar colour.
    Tall, dark & handsome. Well two out of three ain't bad.
  • DREKLY
    DREKLY Posts: 213 Forumite
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    edited 27 December 2014 at 7:09PM
    at Furts - you say... " But if this is by fixing Natural Boards will they have the requisite backing strips, the requisite membranes and all the coats of stain carefully applied? "


    quote, from my post...

    "it LOOKS like a wood finish, but is self coloured, ZERO maintenance"

    That is what makes it SO appealing, it is self coloured, all the way through, it does not need painting, or varnishing, coats of stain, or sealing !

    (you just have to like the "New England" style look... :)
    and I add, no connection with the company, just seems an excellent product, that offers other benefits also, extra insulation, and weatherproofing - what's not to like ?
    16 x Enhance 250w panels + SolarEdge Inverter + TREES :(
  • Furts
    Furts Posts: 4,474 Forumite
    DREKLY wrote: »
    at Furts - you say... " But if this is by fixing Natural Boards will they have the requisite backing strips, the requisite membranes and all the coats of stain carefully applied? "


    quote, from my post...

    "it LOOKS like a wood finish, but is self coloured, ZERO maintenance"

    That is what makes it SO appealing, it is self coloured, all the way through, it does not need painting, or varnishing, coats of stain, or sealing !

    (you just have to like the "New England" style look... :)
    and I add, no connection with the company, just seems an excellent product, that offers other benefits also, extra insulation, and weatherproofing - what's not to like ?

    I know that this makes a wonderful image but the reality is different. If a factory painted Cedral is used then it is suggested that the paint will last ten years. Then it is time for a re-coat. During this ten years cleaning has to be careful - if a pressure washer is used the paint finish will probably be destroyed.

    If a Natural board is used, which is a standard colour and finish, then this must be meticulously decorated before fixing. Basically the installer is trying to replicate the painting that would be on a factory painted board. This finish is then reckoned to need re-coating every 5-8 years depending on many factors, including how well it was originally painted by the installer. The omens are not good on this.

    For the average consumer I am suggesting the risks are too great with a Natural Board and the factory painted boards should be purchased instead.

    The crux of the issue is cost, and whether the painting on the Cedral is better than timber. Both are probably beyond the scope of this forum, but it is a certainty that Marley Eternit do not believe the product to be "zero maintenance." Indeed, anyone stating this should look closely at the Marley Eternit technical guidance and at the fitting recommmendations.
  • Decopierre, Stonecoat, Nuff said
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