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Akinika debt collection for tv license

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  • sniggings
    sniggings Posts: 5,281 Forumite
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    JohnB47 wrote: »
    Not that I'm going go do it mind but how could you own a tv and prove that you never watch live tv. Also, would it not be for the Licencing people to prove that you did watch live tv? Otherwise, what happened to 'innocent until proved guilty'?

    Just interested, as a long standing licence payer.


    A test case, a judge thought it reasonable to surmise that a TV that was setup to watch live TV was in all likelihood being used to watch a live broadcast.

    Some TV boxes can have radio too, or iplayer etc built in but some/all of them need to be plugged in to an ierial/sky signal to use these, you could argue you only use the radio and catchup TV and never watch the live feed, the judge might believe you or not, easier just to totally disconnect the live feed if you can.

    All judges don't rule the same, English law is based on innocence until PROVED guilty but English law is also based on past precedent, so depending on which way the judge swings.

    That's why it's best to not have the TV sitting there with the aerial plugged in or wired up to sky and inviting the TV guy in to test it.

    I have my TV wired up to my xbox, no live feed but I can still watch catchup Tv, Lovefilm and DVDs, all without a license.
  • tony6403
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    sniggings wrote: »
    A test case, a judge thought it reasonable to surmise that a TV that was setup to watch live TV was in all likelihood being used to watch a live broadcast.

    Some TV boxes can have radio too, or iplayer etc built in but some/all of them need to be plugged in to an ierial/sky signal to use these, you could argue you only use the radio and catchup TV and never watch the live feed, the judge might believe you or not, easier just to totally disconnect the live feed if you can.

    All judges don't rule the same, English law is based on innocence until PROVED guilty but English law is also based on past precedent, so depending on which way the judge swings.

    That's why it's best to not have the TV sitting there with the aerial plugged in or wired up to sky and inviting the TV guy in to test it.

    I have my TV wired up to my xbox, no live feed but I can still watch catchup Tv, Lovefilm and DVDs, all without a license.
    Why all the subterfuge.
    If you watch BBC just pay like the vast majority who will end up paying more to subsidise dodgers .
    So far as the BBC is concerned, for "only the radio" licence payers presently fork out £650m per annum.
    Forgotten but not gone.
  • sniggings
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    tony6403 wrote: »
    Why all the subterfuge.
    If you watch BBC just pay like the vast majority who will end up paying more to subsidise dodgers .
    So far as the BBC is concerned, for "only the radio" licence payers presently fork out £650m per annum.

    why pay for a license the BBC themselves say I don't need.

    I don't fish either, should I buy a fishing license too? as going by your reasoning, me not doing will mean the license fee for those that do fish will increase.
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