Dvla fine please help.

Chris_burt3

HI all,

I have just got my mail today and have an Enforcement Notice from Marston.....I have just got off the phone to them and well they don't care what I had to say they just wanted my money, its in regards to a court fine for not passing on details of a V5's new owner. the fine is now £385 but his is the first I have heard about this. I do not know what I am able to do now I have contacted the owner of the car it relates to and they said they have had the log book and since sold the car on. now I believe they have been sending letters to an old address (so of course I have not been getting them) and they have now traced me to my new address asking for this silly amount of money for witch I have no prior knowledge of. I'm guessing this has gone to court and now been passed onto Marston. is there any way of challenging this ???

Marktheshark

Ask them in what capacity they are operating.
Debt collection or bailiff.
If they state bailiff demand they produce a court case number and a a copy of any warrant they claim to have.
They will lie, so you will have to be firm.

What is the truth about the v5 for this car you owned, without knowing that little can be advised on a public forum.

Coupon-mad

Did you send your part of the V5 to the DVLA when you sold the car? Is this 'fine' supposedly from the DVLA or is it a Local Authority parking fine?

The_Deep

They will lie, so you will have to be firm.

Why should they? Are they not the UK's largest judicial services group with 1200 staff and self-employed agents recovering £200 million per year on behalf of taxpayers?

... is it a Local Authority parking fine?

It has nothing to do with parking, it a V5 case.

bazster

The_Deep wrote: »

They will lie, so you will have to be firm.

Why should they? Are they not the UK's largest judicial services group with 1200 staff and self-employed agents recovering £200 million per year on behalf of taxpayers?

So that necessarily makes them honest and upstanding does it?

The_Deep

So that necessarily makes them honest and upstanding does it?

Surely It is reasonable grounds to assume, unless proven otherwise, that they are. It is certainly more reasonable than to accept at face value Marktheshark's unsubstantiated assertion.

peter_the_piper

Try bailiffadviceonline.co.uk, small charge but she knows what she is doing in these cases.

bazster

The_Deep wrote: »

So that necessarily makes them honest and upstanding does it?

Surely It is reasonable grounds to assume, unless proven otherwise, that they are.

Nope, don't see how that follows at all.

Don't know the details of this particular case because the OP has given us little to go on but the DVLA has admitted to losing huge quantities of mail. Despite this it still pursues vehicle keepers aggressively alleging that they failed to notify change of ownership or change of address, when DVLA knows full well that the most likely explanation is that they lost it. DVLA is as dishonest about this as it is about selling data to PPC's, in both cases it is revenue-raising, a stealth tax.

So with such dishonesty at the heart of the matter it seems to me that the default position with regard to the debt collector or bailiff is that they be treated with the same suspicion and contempt as they are treated over, say, PPC cases.

After all, the debt collector/bailiff only gets paid when they collect. Plenty of incentive there to push the boundaries.

The_Deep

DVLA is as dishonest about this as it is about selling data to PPC's, in both cases it is revenue-raising, a stealth tax.

We do not disagree there, I have had my own battle with the DVLA.

with regard to the debt collector or bailiff is that they be treated with the same suspicion and contempt as they are treated over, say, PPC cases.

There is a vast difference between a debt collector and a court appointed bailiff. The latter has been appointed by the court to collect debts which Magistrates have adjudged to be outstanding. In the main, if people ignore Mags they have only themselves to blame if bailiffs are appointed.

bazster

Your faith in court bailiffs is touching. You do realise that Duff of Proserve infamy is a court bailiff?

welly414

bazster wrote: »

Your faith in court bailiffs is touching. You do realise that Duff of Proserve infamy is a court bailiff?

Slam dunk I think. :rotfl: