Fell asleep at services

Guys_Dad

Half_way wrote: »

Motorway service areas are safety critical places where drivers can and should take a break.
thers some clap trap spouted about time limits being there to ensure plenty of spaces, but a two hour limit especially at night is far too short.
if the key concerns are driver ( and other road users ) safety as well as avoiding the car parks being used as a cheap park and ride for those who work then the limits should be 6 hours, plenty of time to rest and not enough time to use for an all day work car park.

I got no help from the Transport Minister's department when I complained and drew a parallel with France and the autoroute aires.

But to be completely accurate, they don't ban you from staying longer than 2 hours at the services but ask for a £10 parking fee.

jimmyjango

Half_way wrote: »

good job you fell asleep there and not behind the wheel whilst driving.

Exactly! There were signs for miles about not driving when tired and that's why I pulled over and what I thought they were there for, and partly why I just assumed they were free!

It's quite disgusting when I think about it; they're trying to bully people! The 6 hour idea sounds like a good idea!

Also I'd have paid the £10 if I had realised, however it would probably have been too late by the time I woke up and they'd no doubt try to get me to pay again anyway!

Half_way

The issue here is that MSA car parks are not there as a money making business ( that happens inside ) nor are the charges there to persuade people to use other means to get their.
they are a safety critical feature on the motorways.

The whole captured by a camera on a pole method should be replaced either by traditional pay and display, which a vast majority of motorists will understand, or barriers on exits - with the layout of most MSA car parks this would be easy.
ANPR systems are geared up to do only one thing make money by catching people out- and dont let me get started on the dartford crossing

Coupon-mad

Doesn't matter that it was in 2013. Do not respond to the debt collectors though, contact the right parties not the middle man debt collector. You should simply be sending the first appeal from the NEWBIES thread to CP Plus anyway, and complaining to MOTO Head Office (Google them) that you are being penalised for falling asleep and you have found from newspaper articles that in fact it is their policy to cancel charges under these circumstances, so you hope they will understand and cancel and that you are in fact very happy to pay £10 for the parking (had you known, you would have done so, but the signage seems to be lacking):

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8784988/Tired-driver-hit-with-fine-for-taking-a-nap.html

MOTO Spokesman said:

“Now that the circumstances surrounding Mr Orr’s penalty have been brought to our attention it will be rescinded under our policy of not charging drivers who have taken a nap for reasons of safety.”

Disabled_Rights_For_Me

I have had a parking ticket. I am disabled and don't think I should pay this. I do not normally get parking tickets and it was clear from my tax disc in my car that I am disabled so who gave me the ticket should know this.


What do I do next?

hoohoo

Disabled_Rights_For_Me wrote: »

I have had a parking ticket. I am disabled and don't think I should pay this. I do not normally get parking tickets and it was clear from my tax disc in my car that I am disabled so who gave me the ticket should know this.


What do I do next?

Next, you read the newbies thread.
Then, you start your own thread.

specialboy

Disabled_Rights_For_Me wrote: »

I have had a parking ticket. I am disabled and don't think I should pay this. I do not normally get parking tickets and it was clear from my tax disc in my car that I am disabled so who gave me the ticket should know this.


What do I do next?

A tax disc doesn't mean you are disabled.

The_Slithy_Tove

Redx wrote: »

give a serviceable name and address for the driver, even if its in kiwi land

they wont like this and may still mither you as RK, but if it ever went to court the claim should be dismissed by the court as you have discharged your responsibilities under POFA 2012

Unless it turned out at court that the whole driver thing was a complete fiction, at which point the judge may get a little grumpy.

There's no need to lie. Just follow the normal route to get rid of these people.

Redx

The_Slithy_Tove wrote: »

Unless it turned out at court that the whole driver thing was a complete fiction, at which point the judge may get a little grumpy.

There's no need to lie. Just follow the normal route to get rid of these people.

which I already explained in post #9

I believed it was true when I replied in the beginning , but it transpired it was probably fiction so I left my original posts intact and added post #9 showing that I was now aware of the probability of it not being true

you have selectively quoted from post #7 and ignored post #9

so from that subsequent point I believed this to be true

There's no need to lie. Just follow the normal route to get rid of these people.