Parking ticket issued by Council & car driven by someone else

Coupon-mad

The_Slithy_Tove wrote: »

And so is perverting the course of justice. So only report a TWOC if it was genuinely, 100%, taken without the OP's consent. Sounds to me like there was consent, but not with full knowledge of the circumstances. I wouldn't want to try to explain that to a cynical police.

I wasn't saying he should lie, I am saying it's about interpretation of that appeal point and worth throwing in, if he appeals. The appeal point that the car was being used without consent is not just about it being stolen though and surely if the car was used by the friend based on a lie then it 'wasn't with informed consent'. I would put that in an adjudication appeal along with any other appeal points about signs/lines/the PCN wording/the Traffic Order.

Or the OP should get the money and pay it if he doesn't want to appeal. But the amount won't go up as we know, as long as he doesn't ignore it, and even if the OP loses at adjudication the amount of the PCN is the only sum payable, which is why I told him I would appeal it.

Seems a bit daft to me to get £70 or whatever from the friend, then just pay it, when the OP could get £70 or whatever, appeal the thing risk free, knowing he has the money to pay the £70 if the adjudication is unsuccessful. Why line the Council's pockets just so they can impose on the town, yet more bus lanes etc?

Just a question... what is the maximum amount this ticket could reach? Just so I can tell my friend that if it isn't paid this is what I could be potentially paying

The amount stays the same (no discount though) as long as you don't ignore it or miss the appeal deadlines. If you want to build an appeal case that might win, post on pepipoo but showing them the PCN (both sides) and not focussing so much about the driver as that's not the relevant point (you are overly focussing on the wrong issue):

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30

They help almost everyone win any appeal, and if you have the PCN sum already handed over to you by the friend, then it is risk free for you to try adjudication.

The_Deep

They help almost everyone win any appeal, and if you have the PCN sum already handed over to you by the friend, then it is risk free for you to try adjudication.

But is it? On what grounds could he appeal? In any event, why should he? Why should anyone wish to help a banned driver save a few quid by wasting Council Tax payers' money on an appeal.

Banned drivers are uninsured drivers, if they kill or maim someone, if they damage property, who pays? All o us through increased premiums.

Your moral compass appears to require recalibration.

Coupon-mad

But is it? On what grounds could he appeal?

The usual stuff that pepipoo sniff out.

Your moral compass appears to require recalibration.

You may have a point! It's just it totally goes against the grain to hand money to a Council for a PCN whereas more than 90% of the time they are appealable/rubbish/not justified/will lose at adjudication. Maybe the OP should get the money, appeal and if they win, give the money to a suitable charity so the idiot who was banned has donated money to a good cause.