Letting agent won't give me the landlord's details

Guest101

jekyll79 wrote: »

This discussion is pointless!

I said I did want to gamble, but couldn't. I didn't have the cash to risk the extra £10,000+ I would have needed. I had already spent out about £10,000.00. I am down about £2,000.00 and a lot of my time. That is preferable to potentially being £20,000+ down. With these cases you don't get to profit from a win you know. If you were a solicitor you would understand that. There wasn't even a "loss of enjoyment" claim as the service that was purchased from the conveyancing solicitor was not for the purpose of enjoyment. I had thought that I could make such a claim. But no. Unless you think you know more about the law than the litigator I used. If so, maybe you could represent me?

The legal system IS flawed and this case proves that. The very fact that a liquidation petition does not have to be advertised in a timely manner (immediately?!?), yet any sales made after the event can be rendered void is flawed to start with. I deal with catch all logical requirements on a daily basis as a computer scientist. That section of the law is MASSIVELY flawed if it allows people to fall through the cracks without having a mechanism to protect the innocent without making them fork out thousands.

Making people pay to seek redress when they have been wronged means that the legal system is intrinsically flawed. It should be a case of "Might FOR Right" instead it is a case of "Might IS Right". Not being aware of that central flaw in the system leads me to believe that you have either never been involved with it, or you have always had the funds to spare in gambling with it. Lucky you.

Anyway, this was not meant to be about those issues (which are pretty much closed). This post was meant to be about getting access to a landlord's details to try and sort out damage caused by their tenant. It looks like I shall have to get his/her details from my new neighbour who is entitled to know their landlord's contact details.

That's your opinion.

Either way, u have no contract with the owner of the neighbouring property, so those details will achieve nothing

jekyll79

Guest101, yes it is my opinion. My opinion based on experience of the flawed system and not a self opinionated assumption that what I think is right is how the system works.

The details may achieve nothing, you are right. Alternatively the landlord *may* be a reasonable person. As I do not have any access to them, I do not know this do I. Alternatively again, I *may* be able to make an unreasonable landlord's life a misery by getting every single owner affected by this tenant's behaviour to bombard them with emails, letters, etc, until they are forced to comply.

There are lots of things I can try, but until I have the person's details I can't do anything.

Guest101

jekyll79 wrote: »

Guest101, yes it is my opinion. My opinion based on experience of the flawed system and not a self opinionated assumption that what I think is right is how the system works.

The details may achieve nothing, you are right. Alternatively the landlord *may* be a reasonable person. As I do not have any access to them, I do not know this do I. Alternatively again, I *may* be able to make an unreasonable landlord's life a misery by getting every single owner affected by this tenant's behaviour to bombard them with emails, letters, etc, until they are forced to comply.

There are lots of things I can try, but until I have the person's details I can't do anything.

Might want to look up harassment in that case.

Like I said previously, you seem to be perfectly placed where you are.

jekyll79

Oh you are a "special" kind of person aren't you. I suspect we have a "know it all troll" here, who realised after never being able to prove to his dad that he wasn't a waste of one of his swimmers, that he would try and belittle others on the net. Were you bullied at school? Do people treat you with contempt in real life? Sounds to me like you need help. Maybe you can pay a therapist with your legal knowledge..... or maybe not actually, since you've been schooled by a newbie in your own online backyard.

If you have something to offer, fair enough. But if you think that people will take your supercilious attitude and put up with it, you are very much mistaken. Something you should have learnt from all the times you have picked on someone who is brighter than you on here.... yeah, I looked 😄

Thanks to everyone else who posted. I think I have my answer. Now I just need to hope that the landlord is reasonable.

Pixie5740

Geez Louise, this thread has taken a bit of a turn.

New neighbours? Does this mean that the nuisance tenant has at least gone leaving a trail of destruction in their wake?

When I tried to find out who was the LL for a property that was above mine when there was a leak I searched for the address in Rightmove, Gumtree, Zoopla and of course good old Google until I found an old cached advert for the property and got the letting agency details that way.

molerat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

IMO the op needs to contact the administrators to sort out the mess.

jekyll79

Hi Pixie, yes the previous tenant is gone thankfully. The new one seems OK, although I have not had chance for much more than a "hi" so far.

The letting agent was spoken to be every owner during the tenancy of the last person and all he did was try and obfuscate details and in the end claimed that he was just "collecting rent".

I think I shall be able to get the landlord's details from the current tenant. I have heard her complaining about the letting agent so I will make a play along the lines of "I need to speak to the landlord about the letting agent".

We have tried the administrators Molerat. Unfortunately they are nasty pieces of work. They (for example) insisted upon each of us paying them over a grand +VAT just to assess our void sales as fair sales. This money was not taken from the builder's assets. They then proceeded to sell several vacant flats for significantly below the market value without even putting them on the open market. We shall be making a complaint with the insolvency practitioner ombudsman about their actions in this. As far as doing anything about the freehold is concerned, they cannot be bothered. As a pre-req of our mortgages, the freehold needs building insurance (as is usually the case for this sort of property). I discovered that the building insurance was coming to an end and had to push them to do anything about it. I tried to do it with the other owners, but was told that I was not allowed by every insurance company I spoke to.

What I have discovered from all of this is that businesses assume that if they threaten individuals, obfuscate details and just make life difficult, that they can generally walk all over people. Civil law is little better than a game of poker. If you are head to head and short stacked, you generally won't win.

Guest101

jekyll79 wrote: »

Oh you are a "special" kind of person aren't you. I suspect we have a "know it all troll" here, who realised after never being able to prove to his dad that he wasn't a waste of one of his swimmers, that he would try and belittle others on the net. Were you bullied at school? Do people treat you with contempt in real life? Sounds to me like you need help. Maybe you can pay a therapist with your legal knowledge..... or maybe not actually, since you've been schooled by a newbie in your own online backyard.

If you have something to offer, fair enough. But if you think that people will take your supercilious attitude and put up with it, you are very much mistaken. Something you should have learnt from all the times you have picked on someone who is brighter than you on here.... yeah, I looked ��

Thanks to everyone else who posted. I think I have my answer. Now I just need to hope that the landlord is reasonable.

1: I don’t believe I was ‘schooled’, but whatever youropinion is. I told you to contact the administrators. And I highlighting thatyou were scared to lose everything and accepted a pay off. Sometimes it’s notthe system that’s flawed but the operator….

2: Just because you don’t agree with me and they didn’t agreewith me, doesn’t make you all correct. Sorry. Glad you had a read throughthough. Now what you need to do is read what I wrote and assume that is the correctanswer….

3: Yes terribly bullied. At School. By my dad. For being aslow swimmer.

Also The fact that the class hamster had a higher IQ than medidn’t help matters, as when faced with the furry opponent at the schooldebating club, I panicked stuffed my face with nuts and ran in a circle for 12minutes.

Since then I have regularly been outwitted by: a chair, abrick, a 2 year old boy, a cat, a mouse and most embarrassing of all, my ownshadow.

Worse was to come, I grew up, or should I say aged. Decidedto try help someone on a forum. Only for the whole school experience to bebrought up in a twist of fate which has now left me clinically depressed andunable to finish typing this sente..

topdaddy_2

jekyll79 wrote: »

Oh you are a "special" kind of person aren't you. I suspect we have a "know it all troll" here, who realised after never being able to prove to his dad that he wasn't a waste of one of his swimmers, that he would try and belittle others on the net. Were you bullied at school? Do people treat you with contempt in real life? Sounds to me like you need help. Maybe you can pay a therapist with your legal knowledge..... or maybe not actually, since you've been schooled by a newbie in your own online backyard.

If you have something to offer, fair enough. But if you think that people will take your supercilious attitude and put up with it, you are very much mistaken. Something you should have learnt from all the times you have picked on someone who is brighter than you on here.... yeah, I looked ��

Thanks to everyone else who posted. I think I have my answer. Now I just need to hope that the landlord is reasonable.

another idiot that thinks everyone who doesnt give them the answer they want is a troll. Youll fit right in here. So much knowledge yet still posts bone questions......:eek:

jekyll79

Guest101 wrote: »

1: I don’t believe I was ‘schooled’, but whatever youropinion is. I told you to contact the administrators. And I highlighting thatyou were scared to lose everything and accepted a pay off. Sometimes it’s notthe system that’s flawed but the operator….

2: Just because you don’t agree with me and they didn’t agreewith me, doesn’t make you all correct. Sorry. Glad you had a read throughthough. Now what you need to do is read what I wrote and assume that is the correctanswer….

3: Yes terribly bullied. At School. By my dad. For being aslow swimmer.

Also The fact that the class hamster had a higher IQ than medidn’t help matters, as when faced with the furry opponent at the schooldebating club, I panicked stuffed my face with nuts and ran in a circle for 12minutes.

Since then I have regularly been outwitted by: a chair, abrick, a 2 year old boy, a cat, a mouse and most embarrassing of all, my ownshadow.

Worse was to come, I grew up, or should I say aged. Decidedto try help someone on a forum. Only for the whole school experience to bebrought up in a twist of fate which has now left me clinically depressed andunable to finish typing this sente..

Take another guess at what I meant when I referred to your daddy's "swimmers".

I know you struggle with this, so let me say it again. The system is flawed if it does not represent everyone equally. If I was Simon Cowell, I would have been able to gamble and the system may have worked for me. If it hadn't, it wouldn't have been a great loss. As I am not Simon Cowell, I have to balance what I can possibly achieve against what I can lose.

Do you know how the legal system works? Do you know that no matter the outcome, a solicitor is entitled to payment? Do you know that if you win, you can sometimes (not always) claim your costs from the other side. Keep that in mind. Now we have that settled in your tiny mind (are we sure?), I can tell you that my litigation solicitor advised me NOT to risk turning down the offer. Why? Why would she do that even though it potentially lost her money? She would have been paid more no matter how it turned out if I had proceeded. She informed me to accept because given her 30 year knowledge of litigation, she believed it to be my best option. There was no "being scared", there was no being a "fool", it was the deemed the best decision by someone who is a lot more qualified than someone who trolls forums looking to try and assert his intellectual superiority.

Now, why don't you go away and figure out what I meant by my "daddy's swimmers" comment. It has nothing to do with your breast stroke.....although your mum's my have been involved. Mores the pity for the rest of us......