Grant for double glazing. Green deal?

Glover1862

Getting conflicting info regarding double glazing and green deal.

My in laws live in their own house and have old single glazed windows, can they get a green deal grant to get double glazing? Father in law is in higher rate DLA and pension credit if it matters.

I understood that it was unlikely to get approved as it didnt met the Goldern rules, the saving must equal the repayments.

Any other way to get DG installed for them.?

stator

It can definitely be used for double glazing but you have to get an energy assesment done to see what measures are recommended for your particular property.
The only problem I can see is if they don't use much energy, the savings wouldn't be big enough to pay for the loan repayments. This is something the energy assessor would work out.
Unfortunately you have to pay for the assessment.

Glover1862

Thanks for the reply, they use about £130 pm both gas and electric.

It a small three bed bungalow and would need fairly large windows. Can they pay extra or will they get it discounted due to bring disabled and a pensioner.

stator

There is no free double glazing offer, but you could qualify for the green deal home improvement fund, but the funding is limited so will probably run out soon:

• Offer 1: Install two or more of 11 'main' energy saving measures, and get up to £1,000
  This offer includes cavity wall insulation, boiler upgrades, double glazing, flat roof insulation and more.
  
  Provided your costs to install the two measures are £1,000 or less, you can get the full whack back in funding. If, say, your costs were £800, then that's what you'll get back. The maximum payout is £1,000 though, so if your improvement costs total £3,000, you'll only get a third of the costs back.
  
  See a full list of the energy saving measures which qualify for the £1,000 funding
  
  
• NOW CLOSED: Offer 2: Install solid wall insulation and get up to £4,000 (was previously £6,000) back
  
  
• 'Add-on' offer 3: Get £100 of your assessment cost refunded
  Pretty straightforward, this one. If improvements are made qualifying you for offer 1 or offer 2 above, you can apply to get up to £100 of your assessment costs refunded (so, usually most if not all of your costs).

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/green-deal#6

If they don't have loft insulation or cavity wall insulation they might be able to get it for free if they qualify for certain benefits as part of the Energy Company Obligation scheme, but that is separate from Green Deal.

Glover1862

Thanks, first step is to have the assessment done, there are with British gas who seen to charge £129.00, they live in Milton Keynes and I'll ring to see if they have funding for them.

Windows are so bad need to do something for them, might even have to put it on my 0% credit card and they can pay it.

stator

The assessment doesn't have to be done by their energy supplier, it can be done by anyone who is an approved Green Deal or EPC assessor.

spiro

The Golden Rule is that the annual energy savings are more than the annual repayments.

Glover1862

spiro wrote: »

The Golden Rule is that the annual energy savings are more than the annual repayments.

This is the problem, I'd reckon DG would save £200 per year, using a green deal approved installer I'd reckon the bill will be £6k, I can't see them agreeing to it as it will never cover the payments when to add the interest.

stator

You can combine things like loft insulation or cavity wall insulation with the windows and they assess the affordability of the combined cost vs the combined saving. So it could still be worth it. Plus if you do two items you might qualify for the green deal home improvement fund (until it runs out)

The Green Deal won't cover pricier repayments' entire cost - you may have to stump up some cash upfront

If an improvement won't pay for itself in energy savings over 10 to 25 years, then you can't borrow the full amount through the scheme. So you'll have to stump up any remainder. Improvements that fully pay for themselves are denoted by a green tick on your assessment, those that only partially do have an orange tick.
Typical areas where you may have to pay

If you go for one of the pricier improvements allowed under the Green Deal – such as solid wall insulation, costing £10,000 or more – the energy you save over 25 years is unlikely to cover the cost.
This is also likely to apply other more expensive improvements, such as new boilers, double glazing, solar panels, replacement storage heaters and under-floor insulation.
Here, you can only borrow the amount you would save on your bills, and must cough up the rest yourself. So carefully work out if you can afford it beforehand.
There may be help

However, you can be clever here. If you combine a low-cost, high-impact improvement (eg, loft insulation), with a high-cost, average-impact improvement, (eg, boiler), you may be able to use the savings from one to pay for the other. See combining improvements for more.

Since the windows need replacing anyway it could be worth stumping up half the cash and doing the rest on green deal
The link in the quote above gives an example of combining double glazing with insulation

jaymeme

I am looking to replace my double glazing, its been in for 20 years since they were installed and all the vacuum air spaces in the windows are broken causing condensation, mold and mildew in side the space, i'm a single mum and a homeowner I work part time and I'm looking for for funding, I have checked the website for green deal help but it only says replacement from single pane windows or secondary glazing, can anyone help please

System

jaymeme wrote: »

I am looking to replace my double glazing, its been in for 20 years since they were installed and all the vacuum air spaces in the windows are broken causing condensation, mold and mildew in side the space, i'm a single mum and a homeowner I work part time and I'm looking for for funding, I have checked the website for green deal help but it only says replacement from single pane windows or secondary glazing, can anyone help please

Changes to the Green Deal Funding:

The government has decided to stop funding the Green Deal Finance Company (GDFC). The GDFC was set up to lend money to Green Deal providers.

If you’re a consumer

You won’t be affected if your Green Deal improvements have already been made and you’re making repayments through your electricity bill. Your Green Deal provider will still be responsible for any warranties or maintenance specified in your contract with them.

Contact the Energy Saving Advice Service (ESAS) or Home Energy Scotland for other advice on energy efficient improvements you can make to your home.