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keep back bedroom warm?

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  • Put it this way, there is no way I'd be sitting cosy with a coal fire and wool duvet while my child slept with freezing hands. I'd set up camp for all of us on the living room floor while it got sorted if necessary!

    absolutely spot on
  • Willowpop
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    edited 14 December 2014 at 9:43AM
    Hi OP, our bedrooms 'felt' cold all the time regardless of whether they had heating on or not, but this year we put insulating wallpaper up on the outside walls in them...it's sort of polystyrene stuff on a roll that goes up like wallpaper and can then be painted or papered over. The difference it has made is incredible, our rooms don't have that 'chill' feeling anymore. I'm so happy. I don't remember exactly what it cost but it wasn't a fortune...and I'm afraid I don'tremember the name of Iit but you can get it in b and q. Well worth a try, I'd say.
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  • Yes kittie I spent money 'doing the house up' - that doesn't mean I've been buying luxeries! oddly enough she would have been even colder without a roof - and she wouldn't have been able to eat as there was no kitchen, the toilet was outside, not sure if your old enough to remember toilets outside but they aren't nice, neither are bed pans, there was damp that's been treated and yes I had a new heating system and if you had bothered to read the thread, at all, you will see that it says even with the heating on her room is still cold. I've already had the same discussion last night, if you don't have anything productive to say then read my responses to your assumptions already 😊
  • jetplane
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    My daughter has a bedroom like this, she has cavity wall and double glazing but it is a north facing room and is always colder than the rest of the house and even if you turned the heating on high and lowered the thermo on the rest of the radiators you can feel a temperature drop. Her child is also a duvet thrower and goes to bed in a onsie with feet or long socks so that they don't come off.

    From last month she has resorted to using an electric heater same as last year, whether the heating is on or not. I think its oil filled but its on a thermostat so clicks in during the night. It does cost to run and she sees a jump in her bills but to be honest its not the getting into bed cos you can warm that up its for during the night when the temperature drops low.

    She has considered insulating the walls but it was expensive to have it done properly, she has concerns though as she knows of someone who has had damp problems caused by condensation and the insulation, I don't know if this is because it was a cheap job.

    Would insulation make a small room too small? That may be a consideration for the other 9 months of the year.
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  • Mimi_Arc_en_ciel
    Mimi_Arc_en_ciel Posts: 4,851 Forumite
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    edited 14 December 2014 at 9:58AM
    booter wrote: »
    The clingy stuff I believe is a form of secondary double glazing - sort of like clingfilm across the windows. Never tried it myself, so don't know if it works.
    I find fleece underblankets do help, also a spare duvet under that. I don't know why - it just feels warmer :)
    My sis had the same problem when she moved into a house with dodgy central heating (before she could afford a new system). She worked nights, so I (the babysitter :)) was the concerned one - my niece would regularly kick off her duvet. And although she was warm (and usually slept soundly, so she couldn't have been too cold!) her hands would be like blocks of ice. Disconcerting if she did wake up in the middle of the night (for a drink/toilet) as she'd wake me by placing her hands either side of my face :eek: Anyway, my idea was to put socks on her hands, underneath her pj top so she wouldn't lose them in the night. (The cuffs of the pj top held the socks in place). Obviously we had to co-ordinate socks with pjs :cool:No more cold hands (and midnight shocks for me!)
    Sorry, I do ramble a bit sometimes (memories :)) - so, how about fleecy onesie/pjs, with possibly a hood? And gloves/mitts/socks!

    FWIW, I'd probably get the heating checked out too - maybe the radiators need bleeding? Do you have thermostatic valves on the radiators? If so, can you turn the others down, but hers up? How about a fleece blanket on top of the duvet and tucked in?

    Try not to worry too much - it's probably much healthier to sleep in a cooler rather than warmer room :)

    Ahh ok I've never heard to the clingy stuff. I'm going to reseal round her Windows today, not sure whether it will help but can't hurt right and the blinds are going up. I've dug the under blanket things out so I'll put them on both the girls beds later. As someone's pointed out, hoods aren't very safe but I'll see whether she will keep her hands covered. The thermostat is digital so I put it in her room but even full blast all the other rooms are warm but not hers which is why I don't see the point in just sticking the radiator on, it isn't warming her room up anyway. They bled them when they had sorted pressure out, hers was the only one with no air. I honest think its because of the 2 outside walls.
    I would imagine power points and light switches would have to be adjusted accordingly as well.

    There's no light switches etc on her outside walls, just the radiator
    Willowpop wrote: »
    Hi OP, our bedrooms 'felt' cold all the time regardless of whether they had heating on or not, but this year we put insulating wallpaper up on the outside walls in them...it's sort of polystyrene stuff on a roll that goes up like wallpaper and can then be painted or papered over. The difference it has made is incredible, our rooms don't have that 'chill' feeling anymore. I'm so happy. I don't remember exactly what it cost but it wasn't a fortune...and I'm afraid I don'tremember the name of Iit but you can get it in b and q. Well worth a try, I'd say.
    Oh I'll look into that - I didn't redecorate, just painted over the wall paper that was already up - thanks!
  • I would deffo get some quotes for insulated plaster board to be put on those walls. Stop looking at the temp and leave her door open after she asleep to let heat from rest of house to get in room. I have used an oil filled rad in past but if she is happy enough then don't stress too much about it.
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  • jetplane wrote: »
    My daughter has a bedroom like this, she has cavity wall and double glazing but it is a north facing room and is always colder than the rest of the house and even if you turned the heating on high and lowered the thermo on the rest of the radiators you can feel a temperature drop. Her child is also a duvet thrower and goes to bed in a onsie with feet or long socks so that they don't come off.

    From last month she has resorted to using an electric heater same as last year, whether the heating is on or not. I think its oil filled but its on a thermostat so clicks in during the night. It does cost to run and she sees a jump in her bills but to be honest its not the getting into bed cos you can warm that up its for during the night when the temperature drops low.

    She has considered insulating the walls but it was expensive to have it done properly, she has concerns though as she knows of someone who has had damp problems caused by condensation and the insulation, I don't know if this is because it was a cheap job.

    Would insulation make a small room too small? That may be a consideration for the other 9 months of the year.

    I'm not sure about the thickness so will need to look into it properly, thank you
  • jetplane
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    She has tried the film and yes the windows are warmer to touch but as you say the cold has more to do with the walls. If the walls are really cold watch out for damp patches you may have to move her bed and furniture away from the walls if they are up against them. especially if that corner of the house gets heavy wind, rain etc.
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  • , you will see that it says even with the heating on her room is still cold.

    How long are you leaving it on for though? It won't work if you leave it on for an hour at a time. It may never heat effectively if the heat is leaving through the walls, but it definitely won't if the heat isn't there for any length of time.
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  • mardatha
    mardatha Posts: 15,612 Forumite
    This house had no heating other than a coal fire when we moved in, and I'm 1000ft up on a Scottish moor. I found that no amount of heating with an oil-filled radiator made any difference to the room my son slept in and it was an utter waste of money. What did help was an old duvet and fleecy mattress cover under him, warm jammies, and a 13.5tog duvet over him.
    As long as it is't damp then your daughter should be ok - check the wall for damp. if it gets damp then you need to do something as that will make her ill. but dry cold to a healthy child should be fine, unless you live in Siberia lol.
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