Gross misconduct hearing next week – I need urgent advice please

AndyPK

It's not sounding good.

I think u are allowed 4 or 5 days between receieving minutes and a hearing so politely suggest a new date if they don't give u enough time.

Minutes will probably be adjusted to make you look completely guilty.

If you have worked their less than 2 years you can't do a lot

You may wish to ring acas or get on their website if they are playing dirty.

Popec5

AndyPK wrote: »

It's not sounding good.

I think u are allowed 4 or 5 days between receieving minutes and a hearing so politely suggest a new date if they don't give u enough time.

Minutes will probably be adjusted to make you look completely guilty.

If you have worked their less than 2 years you can't do a lot

You may wish to ring acas or get on their website if they are playing dirty.

AndyPK,

I am guilty. No question about it. I just didn't do it deliberately. I did not want to do anything wrong, just wanted to help others.
ACAS was not helpful, they said they can't really do this or that, but it is up to them...not a big help.

Yes, I cannot do a lot. It is just so hard.

Popec5

ohreally wrote: »

You should treat your period of suspension as though you were at work.

Don't contact any of your colleagues and don't discuss the proceedings with anyone.

Ohreally,
I was told not to discuss this with the colleagues involved, they didn't say I can't meet them.
But I guess you're right.

Popec5

dancingfairy wrote: »

I guess the question is whether you have set days off each week. If you are not contracted to work a saturday say, then there is nothing to stop you looking for another job on a saturday or for another day/time when you are not contracted to work. Obviously it makes it difficult if you are offered overtime at your original job or if your shifts are changed about but there is nothing to prevent it, unless you contract says you must not work for a competitor.
It's difficult whether you should say what's happened or not. I think if you are asked you should be honest and say that you thought you were helping a colleague out but that you were taken advantage of. Say that you realise it was wrong and that you will be much more careful in future to read and follow rules/procedures.
This is merely a blip/bump in the road. You can, and will overcome this.
Best wishes
df
edit: I do feel that given the situation, you may be better of starting again somewhere but see what happens.

df,
Thank you!
I told them everything honestly. That is the only thing I am good at. Look where it lead me....

Yes, I guess somewhere else as a fresh start would be better, but I really don't want to give this up. I am so st..id

Popec5

My store manager told to one of the team leaders this week that I will be back next week. I really do not understand him......

patman99

Look, the one big plus is that you openly admitted to what has happened.
You could have lied like so many do, and told them that when on holiday, you left your card in your uniform which was hanging on a hook in the hall of your home and had no idea someone had used it.

The one thing I have learned in life is that if you f**k-up, admit ti, don't cover it up.

Popec5

patman99 wrote: »

Look, the one big plus is that you openly admitted to what has happened.
You could have lied like so many do, and told them that when on holiday, you left your card in your uniform which was hanging on a hook in the hall of your home and had no idea someone had used it.

The one thing I have learned in life is that if you f**k-up, admit ti, don't cover it up.

Thanks Patman 99, good to know that some people still prefer honesty.

rb211

Just some points from me.

1) Your employer must at least follow the ACAS code of Practice for disciplinaries (you can download a copy from ACAS website), your employer probably also has their own disciplinary policy that they must follow correctly, ask for it or they may send it to you along with your hearing date letter.

2) You have a right to be accompanied by a colleague or friend to the hearing

3) Your best course of action now is to plead for clemency

4) If you keep your job, join the union !

5) A note on those saying contact the union - not many union reps will take on a case were the incident happened when they were not a trade union member, unions are not a opt in when I get in trouble organisation, then opt out when everything is ok.

Takeaway_Addict

rb211 wrote: »

Just some points from me.

1) Your employer must at least follow the ACAS code of Practice for disciplinaries (you can download a copy from ACAS website), your employer probably also has their own disciplinary policy that they must follow correctly, ask for it or they may send it to you along with your hearing date letter.
This is not a legal requirement but it is advisable employers do so
2) You have a right to be accompanied by a colleague or friend to the hearing Only if your friend is a colleague or a union rep, otherwise there is no right

3) Your best course of action now is to plead for clemency

4) If you keep your job, join the union !

5) A note on those saying contact the union - not many union reps will take on a case were the incident happened when they were not a trade union member, unions are not a opt in when I get in trouble organisation, then opt out when everything is ok.

Just a few minor points.

rb211

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

Just a few minor points.

Your point 1) is not clear what you are referring to

Your point 2) correct