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DEAL court claim received

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  • Marktheshark
    Marktheshark Posts: 5,841 Forumite
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    It has PP (Per procurationem) before the solicitors name, that means usually it has not been signed by Chris Jones.
    I do Contracts, all day every day.
  • bazster
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    "We hereby confirm, on behalf of the Group, that Civil Enforcement Limited had authority to issue PCNs in respect of car parks which were managed on behalf of the group by Creative Car Park Limited or Creative Parking Limited."

    Just what exactly are those weasel words trying to say? Who exactly did the Co-op have a contract with? 'Cos if it's Creative blah blah then it's not CEL is it? It seems to me that Mr. Jones' letter is mere obfuscation and tells us nothing substantive. If this becomes another claim to be defended the ambiguities in this letter need to be highlighted and DEAL needs to be challenged to produce the actual contract with the Co-op to prove who the contracting party was (as well as the usual stuff about proving that the supposed debt really was lawfully assigned to DEAL).

    I still don't think this is going to finish up in a court room. £500? DEAL hasn't the slightest intention of trying to justify that ludicrous sum to a judge, on the small claims track where costs are very limited indeed. They're just excited at their shiny new toy, the Co-op letter, and they're seeing how many people it will intimidate into paying up.
    Je suis Charlie.
  • enfield_freddy
    enfield_freddy Posts: 6,147 Forumite
    ok , so the letter says they have permission to issue parking tickets , does not say they can then extract money , or even go to court , just that as far as the coop are aware , it grants CEL permission to walk around the car park fitting bits of paper to cars .
  • Here's their list of costs:

    drafting of claim/witness statement £70
    General file attendance £45
    Hearing Fee £25
    Preparation for hearing £65
    Claimant attending court/travel £125
    Total £330

    To this total they have added the fees of £200+ of their previous attempt at court which was struck out.
  • bazster
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    Here's their list of costs:

    drafting of claim/witness statement £70
    General file attendance £45
    Hearing Fee £25
    Preparation for hearing £65
    Claimant attending court/travel £125
    Total £330

    To this total they have added the fees of £200+ of their previous attempt at court which was struck out.

    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: Hahahahaha, what a crock, they're really claiming the costs for their previous c0ck-up? If they're stupid enough to actually turn this into a claim I reckon it'll be struck out even more emphatically than the previous one!
    Je suis Charlie.
  • nigelbb
    nigelbb Posts: 3,819 Forumite
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    It seems DEAL are not giving up yet! Despite the claim being struck out in April, and following the Beavis case, they have sent me a letter advising me they are going back to court if I don't pay up within 7 days. This time their cost are listed as exceeding £500.
    The claim was struck out. DEAL cannot revive it even if they have a new note from the Co-op.

    It is just possible that CEL alone could submit a fresh claim. The case was struck out because DEAL didn't produce evidence of the debt assignment. Of course we all know that the whole assignment thing was a sham & that DEAL & CEL are one & the same.
  • enfield_freddy
    enfield_freddy Posts: 6,147 Forumite
    should there not be a letter in that pack from the co-op giving CEL permission to sell off (assign) the debt to DEAL?


    as I read it , CEL are (were) hired by the co-op


    my boss would get annoyed if I assigned (sold) half of his tools from the workshop
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