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Tenants want boyfriend to move in - ok?

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  • fishpond
    fishpond Posts: 1,022 Forumite
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    edited 5 December 2014 at 9:09PM
    Therefore pay at least 20% more rent ( there are now 3 people)to someone else with the additional costs involved in moving and signing a new contract with an unknown LL.:rotfl:
    I assume the boyfriend is moving in to save money on rent (amongst other reasons)

    There are a few ifs, buts and maybe's but the LLady is happy to do what she is doing, so thats the end of that.
    I am a LandLord,(under review) so there!:p
  • kev25v6
    kev25v6 Posts: 242 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts
    And what happens if the two girls move out and he decides he's not going?
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    kev25v6 wrote: »
    And what happens if the two girls move out and he decides he's not going?

    Then he's a squatter and the police remove him
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    fishpond wrote: »
    Therefore pay at least 20% more rent ( there are now 3 people)to someone else with the additional costs involved in moving and signing a new contract with an unknown LL.:rotfl:
    I assume the boyfriend is moving in to save money on rent (amongst other reasons)

    And the OP get a dodgy tenant and gets nothing for months or a destroyed flat...
  • fishpond
    fishpond Posts: 1,022 Forumite
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    Please explain?
    I am a LandLord,(under review) so there!:p
  • adhara
    adhara Posts: 73 Forumite
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    Guest101 wrote: »
    Ofcourse he can have a key. A key doesn't give him rights...

    No, because non-tenants do not have a legal obligation to own keys, even if they live there. It is only at the landlord's discretion. Do you give keys to squatters just because they live there? No!

    He has no legal right to live there if he doesn't sign the tenancy. It is entirely on the landlord on whether he can live there or not, but if he signs said lease then he has more legal rights.
    Guest101 wrote: »
    And the OP get a dodgy tenant and gets nothing for months or a destroyed flat...

    Except he's not a tenant, he's a squatter. Make your mind up!
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    fishpond wrote: »
    Please explain?

    Op says I want extra £80 a month, they say no and move out.

    OP now needs new tenant. Let's say rent is 800 a month. He loses 400 in the 2 week void, another 200 in tenant finding fees, that's 8 months worth of the increased rent.

    A bad tenant moves in, late with rent, misses payments. OP goes to court to evict, more fees. Tenant damages the property. More costs.

    Op sues the tenant, they have no money and pay back £10 a month... For a few months...


    Great...

    I'm not saying this happens all the time, it's a risk. He has two good tenants, why risk it.
  • fishpond
    fishpond Posts: 1,022 Forumite
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    edited 5 December 2014 at 9:38PM
    Guest101 wrote: »
    Op says I want extra £80 a month, they say no and move out.

    OP now needs new tenant. Let's say rent is 800 a month. He loses 400 in the 2 week void, another 200 in tenant finding fees, that's 8 months worth of the increased rent.

    A bad tenant moves in, late with rent, misses payments. OP goes to court to evict, more fees. Tenant damages the property. More costs.

    Op sues the tenant, they have no money and pay back £10 a month... For a few months...


    Great...

    I'm not saying this happens all the time, it's a risk. He has two good tenants, why risk it.
    LL has already stated that the rent will not be increasing.
    which voids the rest of your (very weak and unrealistic)argument.
    I am a LandLord,(under review) so there!:p
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    adhara wrote: »
    No, because non-tenants do not have a legal obligation to own keys, even if they live there. It is only at the landlord's discretion. Do you give keys to squatters just because they live there? No!

    He has no legal right to live there if he doesn't sign the tenancy. It is entirely on the landlord on whether he can live there or not, but if he signs said lease then he has more legal rights.



    Except he's not a tenant, he's a squatter. Make your mind up!

    1: The tenant can give a key to whoever they choose. Bf, neighbour, anyone.
    2: learn the meaning of obligation. U mean no legal right. No he doesn't, but that's upto the tenants.
    3: no the current tenants have a valid tenancy and can invite whomever they wish. LL has no say on the matter.

    4:he would be a squatter if he stayed and they left. Otherwise he's a permitted occupier.

    The bad tenant I referred to was if they all left and OP got a new one in
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    fishpond wrote: »
    LL has already stated that the rent will not be increasing.
    which voids the rest of your (very weak and unrealistic)argument.

    It was an example.

    U asked me to explain.

    The arguement is very valid.
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