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help with plugging new electric oven into mains
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onomatopoeia99 wrote: »Are you suggesting that 13A plugs and sockets are not, in fact, suitable for supplying the 13A they are stated as being intended for?
A BS1363 socket outlet is rated for a maximum 3000W output, however you wouldn't want to run it at full load for any real amount of time (eg, cooking the sunday dinner) as you'll be replacing both the plug and socket on a regular basis.Understeer is when you hit a wall with the front of your car
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Quiet_Spark wrote: »A BS1363 socket outlet is rated for a maximum 3000W output, however you wouldn't want to run it at full load for any real amount of time (eg, cooking the sunday dinner) as you'll be replacing both the plug and socket on a regular basis.
Sunday roast would be fine!
The oven has a stated energy consumption of 0.79 kWh and the oven and the grill rated at 2kW would not be used at the same time.
"This product can be either plugged in (plug not supplied) or hard wired"
It appears that some people can't read.:doh: Blue text on this forum usually signifies hyperlinks, so click on them!..:wall:0 -
Quiet_Spark wrote: »A BS1363 socket outlet is rated for a maximum 3000W output, however you wouldn't want to run it at full load for any real amount of time (eg, cooking the sunday dinner) as you'll be replacing both the plug and socket on a regular basis.
I am familiar with what happens to a white socket if you leave a 3KW fan heater running all day every day. The smell of rotting fish is always a bad sign.
However, things like plugs and sockets *should* be able to work continuously at their stated design maximum without premature failure.Proud member of the wokerati, though I don't eat tofu.Home is where my books are.Solar PV 5.2kWp system, SE facing, >1% shading, installed March 2019.Mortgage free July 20230 -
I can't think of any product that will run at it's design maximum all day, every day without premature failure.onomatopoeia99 wrote: »However, things like plugs and sockets *should* be able to work continuously at their stated design maximum without premature failure.Understeer is when you hit a wall with the front of your car
Oversteer is when you hit a wall with the back of your car
Horsepower is how fast your car hits the wall
Torque is how far your car sends the wall across the field once you've hit it0 -
You don't guess you go with manufactures instructions0
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Dunno where you got 3.1Kw from
Online instructions clearly state 2000W ( 2Kw ) oven and energy consumption of 0.79Kw making a total load of 2790W ( 2.79Kw ) so perfectly allowable to put a 13A plug top on it and run it as the old one was.You may click thanks if you found my advice useful0 -
The OP said in post number 7 that the appliance came with a leaflet stating the oven draws 3.1KW.Dunno where you got 3.1Kw from
Whether that included the grill or not I really don't know, but all the OP has to do is look at the spec plate for a definitive answer in order to get to a correct solution.
If it does draw 2.79KW, then a 13A plug top in conjunction with a short length of 1.5mm² 3 core heat resistant flex will be perfectly acceptable.Understeer is when you hit a wall with the front of your car
Oversteer is when you hit a wall with the back of your car
Horsepower is how fast your car hits the wall
Torque is how far your car sends the wall across the field once you've hit it0 -
Quiet_Spark wrote: »A BS1363 socket outlet is rated for a maximum 3000W output, however you wouldn't want to run it at full load for any real amount of time (eg, cooking the sunday dinner) as you'll be replacing both the plug and socket on a regular basis.
That's not really the issue. uk plugs are massively over engineered, They will supply 13amp all day long no problem.
The problem comes is that as soon as you switch on a few other appliances your going to be blowing your main ring circuit fuse. It needs its own circuit.0 -
Rings are rated at 30A, or 32A on a breaker. The fuse/breaker is designed to allow the full rated current constantly, and in practice will not blow/trip for a considerable time with a slight overload. For instance, a 32A breaker will allow 36A for an hour without tripping.
A 3kW oven will not be drawing current constantly. It will take about 10 minutes to warm up, then start switching off and on with the thermostat. A 13A plug will handle that happily, which is why so many single ovens are now supplied with 13A plugs.
Despite all the fuss, plugging a single oven into a conventional ring will never cause a problem in most houses.If it sticks, force it.
If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.0 -
It's not just about current draw.Rings are rated at 30A, or 32A on a breaker. The fuse/breaker is designed to allow the full rated current constantly, and in practice will not blow/trip for a considerable time with a slight overload. For instance, a 32A breaker will allow 36A for an hour without tripping.
A 3kW oven will not be drawing current constantly. It will take about 10 minutes to warm up, then start switching off and on with the thermostat. A 13A plug will handle that happily, which is why so many single ovens are now supplied with 13A plugs.
Despite all the fuss, plugging a single oven into a conventional ring will never cause a problem in most houses.Understeer is when you hit a wall with the front of your car
Oversteer is when you hit a wall with the back of your car
Horsepower is how fast your car hits the wall
Torque is how far your car sends the wall across the field once you've hit it0
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