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crossing footpath to access driveway?

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  • Furts
    Furts Posts: 4,474 Forumite
    force_ten wrote: »

    A few years ago a friend of mine was in the similar situation to you and the council were doing the paths outside his property and he had the kerbs dropped for £250.00 but up to that point had never parked off street as they had four inch kerbs so a bit high to drive over

    Sorry if this sounds pedantic, but the upstand is 125mm. Hence if OP declines to have a drooped kerb there could be a shock when it comes to driving up and over the new full height kerb.

    Should a dropped kerb be requested make sure the dropper kerbs and splay come outside the line of the drive. It is not unusual to find contractors skimping here and not setting the kerbs, and if necessary the cut kerbs, to suit everyones' drive. If there are doubts, or lack of clarity/technicality, I suggest OP gets this in writing from the Council at tomorrows meeting. The key words being "Left hand dropper kerb location", "Right hand dropper kerb location", and "45 degree minimum splay".
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    Quite possibly the other owners have had a similar letter.

    My thinking would be that I understand that other people aren't allowed to park in front of lowered kerbs. Certainly I had the initial thought of "Loads of room in so-and-so road for my visitors to park and nobody much seems to park there" and then I started counting all those lowered kerbs and there are loads of them in that road.

    Hence it would appear that anyone who gains the benefit of a lowered kerb (ie keeping access clear to their drive) is in the process ensuring no-one else can park there. That being the case, then the Council is entitled to charge for the fact that other people can no longer park there.

    I'm sorry, but where did you get that from?????
    It really is judt your logic, flawed in my opinion and nothing else.

    The council are simply trying to press for a kerb lowering premium where someone has already got vehicular access.

    OP, tell them to swivel for it
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

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  • sajjed
    sajjed Posts: 97 Forumite
    Furts wrote: »
    Sorry if this sounds pedantic, but the upstand is 125mm. Hence if OP declines to have a drooped kerb there could be a shock when it comes to driving up and over the new full height kerb.

    Should a dropped kerb be requested make sure the dropper kerbs and splay come outside the line of the drive. It is not unusual to find contractors skimping here and not setting the kerbs, and if necessary the cut kerbs, to suit everyones' drive. If there are doubts, or lack of clarity/technicality, I suggest OP gets this in writing from the Council at tomorrows meeting. The key words being "Left hand dropper kerb location", "Right hand dropper kerb location", and "45 degree minimum splay".
    well now this is getting technical,a bit above my understanding
    council have assured me(over the phone) if I do not want to pay for droppped kerb they will not be raising the existing one.
    paperwork says existing ramped kerbs in the area are being replaced with drop kerbs flush with road.
    all existing paving to be replaced with 45cmx45cmx70cm. think these are thicker than the existing ones but could be wrong
    and whatever I do decide my driveway and front garden wall have recently been rebuilt/replaced I will be watching close to see they do not cause damage
  • Dan-Dan
    Dan-Dan Posts: 5,278 Forumite
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    sajjed wrote: »
    well now this is getting technical,a bit above my understanding
    council have assured me(over the phone) if I do not want to pay for droppped kerb they will not be raising the existing one.
    paperwork says existing ramped kerbs in the area are being replaced with drop kerbs flush with road.
    all existing paving to be replaced with 45cmx45cmx70cm. think these are thicker than the existing ones but could be wrong
    and whatever I do decide my driveway and front garden wall have recently been rebuilt/replaced I will be watching close to see they do not cause damage

    Really ?!
    Why on earth would you ever consider paying for them to do one then!?
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  • sajjed
    sajjed Posts: 97 Forumite
    Dan-Dan wrote: »
    Really ?!
    Why on earth would you ever consider paying for them to do one then!?
    Have you read the thread/posts/replies?
    Thought it would be clear
  • Sajjed, I paid my local council 1400 pounds to drop the kerb in the summer, it involved replacing seven lengths of kerb, some were splayed. Looks so much better than the cracked pavement that was there before and hopefully no=one can park blocking my drive.
  • Mrs_Imp
    Mrs_Imp Posts: 1,001 Forumite
    I'd get it done.

    If the Council do the repairs and don't drop your kerb you could be facing a bill for future repairs if you keep driving over it. If it gets done to the same standard as the pavement near us, that'll take about 10 days! The used soft tarmac which caused further damage to the pavement as cars drove over it and squashed it in to mountains and valleys about 6 inches high!

    If gas pipes, water pipes etc get cracked under the bit you drive on, I wouldn't be surprised if you got a bill for that too.

    For peace of mind, as well as cost saving, get it done now.
  • sajjed
    sajjed Posts: 97 Forumite
    Mrs_Imp wrote: »
    I'd get it done.

    If the Council do the repairs and don't drop your kerb you could be facing a bill for future repairs if you keep driving over it. If it gets done to the same standard as the pavement near us, that'll take about 10 days! The used soft tarmac which caused further damage to the pavement as cars drove over it and squashed it in to mountains and valleys about 6 inches high!

    If gas pipes, water pipes etc get cracked under the bit you drive on, I wouldn't be surprised if you got a bill for that too.

    For peace of mind, as well as cost saving, get it done now.
    cheers. there are actually no repairs needed to the footpath outside my house its all level and not cracked. they are replacing pavement
    final decision though comes down to what the quote comes back from the council today.
    sounds like the workmen near you were less than brilliant!
    I understand IF I do not go down the drop kerb route and damage the pavement I am responsible for damage and would be honest about it, but what about other vehicles turning around in the road and bumping up the kerb/pavement to turn their vehicles around, the council would have a fight on their hands if they tried to blame me for damage someone else caused,
    The council can't expect me to police the pavement
  • Gloomendoom
    Gloomendoom Posts: 16,551 Forumite
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    Isn't the bottom line that it is actually illegal to drive over a pavement unless there is a dropped kerb?
  • sajjed
    sajjed Posts: 97 Forumite
    edited 28 November 2014 at 11:15AM
    Isn't the bottom line that it is actually illegal to drive over a pavement unless there is a dropped kerb?

    I don't know
    I posed the question as I have been accessing my drive and garage for 30+ years along with the rest of the road, the council have been to my property several times for site visits including when the garaga was built and never mentioned I should not cross the pavement
    a I have said previously the council are not saying I cannot cross the pavement they are advising me they may come back on me if the pavement gets damaged
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