Is OS bad for me?

bluemoon_3

boo81 wrote: »

I wonder if it might be better to eat less cereal in the morning and plan a more substantial mid morning break. I feel maybe I eat too much in the mornings as im preparing myself for not getting hungry before lunch, wondering if this doesnt help!

Angeladavis, that sounds great in theory but very bland. Im not sure how to exist without using oil in anything for starters and I imagine my meusli would certainly be off the menu as its wheat. I could maybe follow that for a few days a week at a push, I would lose enthusiasm I think.

There are lots of things not mentioned though the main ones being aubergine, lettuce and potatoes. Also is pork a white or red meat, seems to depend who you ask!

Im thinking maybe the answer is to have a couple of mega healthy days per week, a couple like normal and try and cut down on treats. I dont have scales I just go by how things fit me. I find that my weight yoyos naturally a lot and ive been know to gain 1/2 stone in a week!

I wonder if you'd like the book 'French Women Don't Get Fat'. I got it from the library on a whim and the approach to food really struck a chord with me, more so than the more structured diets with 'good' and 'bad' foods. A lot of it is really common sense things that we all know, but somehow ignore or forget. I ignored her 'leek soup' bit (seemed like another fad diet to me), but otherwise it's all about figuring out your own balance and how to manage and enjoy those foods that cause you problems (for me it's bread - I now only eat it as a planned part of a meal, for example HM pizza dough or a HM naan with a curry).

The reason I mention it is that the last paragraph you wrote could have been written by me, so it might suit you too. I don't have scales either, but since I read this book in May my clothes are starting to become noticeably baggy in places and I'm bloated less often. And I eat chocolate every day and chips from the chip shop on occasion, with only residual guilt. I'm hopeful that this is teaching me a way to eat with balance and enjoyment while managing my weight for the rest of my life - it seems that way so far.

angelavdavis

Sorry not to check on this thread sooner - my weekend took over early!

I understand the thinking about the blandness. I have found it hard to cut back on oils (and salt!).

I use a lot of white wine for cooking chicken in for example, lots and lots of herbs and spices and lemon/lime juice.

It has challenged the way I cook.

I do have muesli but mix my own - using porridge oats, pumpkin seeds, millet, sunflower seeds (all for omega 3 which I think is important for women) and fruit (which are allowed too - forgot about them!) I have also pm'd you more information on meals. I also cook my version of curry on the diet - I don't use fat (cook meat in its own juices or in stock) and use tinned tomatoes to produce the curry sauce.

I will be completely honest here - when I weighed myself after a week and discovered I had lost 4 Lbs after never losing on weightwatchers and having never felt hungry - I was delighted - I soon got over the diet coke/alcohol/salt withdrawal symptoms!

I can eat aubergine, lettuce and potatoes (just missed them off my memory list!) Although I think (would need to check) that aubergine would have to replace potatoes because they are carbs(? not sure)

Like bluemoon and yourself, my weight yoyos - I think that's the joy of hormones! I am not a huge pork eater and its definitely not on my eating list.

As mentioned though, once you have lost the weight - you can indeed do exactly what you have suggested and just eat different for a couple of days a week. The reason you do the eating plan is to increase the metabolism, so its critical do follow it to the letter initially at least.

Hope that makes sense? For anyone interested, check out http://www.podfeed.net/podcast/Michael+Thurmonds+6+Week+Body+Makeover+Podcast/4562# or http://www.mybodymakeover.com/.

sianb84

I follow Slimming World and love it. When I stick to it I have really good weight loses.

I bake but these are for OH, I may have the odd bit but am careful so that I don't go overboard.

I am never hungry as I just snack when I need to (on good things though).

I can eat anything I want as long as I am careful and factor that into my food for the rest of the day for example if I want chippy chips I have them but cut out my syns for the rest of the day and don't use my usual amount the next day to make up for it.

I am planning to stick at slimming world and when I get to target I will still go to class so that I don't put all the weight back on again (class is free when you reach target and stay within 3 lbs of it)

boo81

I actually used to do slimming world ut I understand it has changed since I joined as you dont need to have green and red days as you can mix. How does that work then?

I did lose a lot but found it hard to incorparte in the long term.

I wish I could get my head round the paul mckenna thing but its hard thinking of every mouthful you have and constantly assessing how hungry to are, to me its not natural and so I forget about it.

Maybe I should try hypnotherapy, my next door neighbour listened to a tape and suddenly stopped drinking beer and wine and has lost so much weight and is fitter than me!

Pink.

Hi,

As this thread has moved from Old Style eating to different methods of slimming I'm going to move it over to the Health and Beauty board to see if you can get some more suggestions.

Also don't forget the Lose Weight 13 thread on the I wanna board which is great source of support for anyone trying to lose weight.

Good Luck.

Pink

angelavdavis

Thanks Pink!

Justie

boo81 wrote: »

4oz is uncooked, I tried having 3oz and found myself unable to sleep from hunger. I could maybe cut it down 1/2 oz at the most.

if you're not eating enough protein then the carbs will have already been used by the time you go to bed and so you will be hungy - also if reducing portion size it will take your body a little while for your habitual hunger (as opposed to real hunger) to calm down.

What you're eating doesn't look too bad in itself and if you watch the portion sizes and up the exercise then you'd see results. One thing you may want to do is add soup in as a meal - use lots of veg and some meat or pulses for protein and you'll find if you make it nice and chunky it'll keep you feeling full for longer.

Personally I wouldn't cut out anything including the weekend treats just try to watch the portion size of the things you know are likely to be higher fat.

Katmc2k

boo81 wrote: »

I would like to start eating more soup but im a real novice with cooking it. Im not sure what to do with it and should do some research really. I do have a microwave at work so would be convenient.

I have a theory that everyone can cook soup, based on the simple fact that I can cook it, so it must be easy....

I usually make thick creamy-ish vegetable soup (i'm not keen on chunky unless its potato and leek) by boiling a selection of chopped vegetable in a big pot (usually onion, garlic, sweet potato, turnip, potato, leek, carrot, anything i've got actually) Then when its really soft spoon some veg + liquid into a jug and whizz it up so its a thick paste. Once its all done put it back in the pot and add some veg stock and loads of water and some herbs and spices to taste. I don't usually add salt because there is enough stock. then reduce it to a nice consistency, and if you're like me and can't ever eat soup without some kind of milk/cream add some now (I usually add semi-skimmed milk and its fine)

With some veg you are supposed to do that thing where you put them in a hot pot with melted butter until they are soft but obviously thats no good for the calorie counting and I think boiling them is just as good. A massive pot lasts ages and is a great snack instead of crisps etc, only trouble is I never fancy soup in the summer time...

Hope this helps a bit... x

boo81

Thanks thats a great reply!

Well currently I have muchrooms, potatoes, carrots, courgette, onions, tomatoes and small red pepper. Do you think this would make a nice soup with these ingredients?

In the freezer I have green beans, peas and brocolli that I would also add. Anyone got any ideas on a combination here I could use?

Well ive started small and cut down my breakfast meusli from 70g to 50g. Ive got my gym card through though im not going til sunday. Im planning to maybe cook some extra food some nights and have leftovers for lunch instead of sandwichs to give a bit of variation too.

Justie

potatoes will always give a creaminess to soup as they're starchy so good for thickening, especially if you put it all in the blender. Generally root veg and things like onions work well in soups but there's no reason not to try other things - in summer pea and mint is really nice. Broccoli soup is lovely too. If you do a google search you'll find loads of soup recipes and once you're used to the general idea you can easily adapt it to whatever you have to hand.

I tend to chop everything up put it in a big pan with stock and let it simmer away for anything from 20 minutes to an hour depending on what I'm doing. I also tend to add a drained tin of beans, chickpeas or lentils for some protein and sometimes a small handful of small pasta so it's a full on meal. You can get good stock cubes (Kallo I prefer) or bottles of concentrated stock so if you like lots of flavour invest in some of these and it's fine to use chicken stock as a base if you want a deeper flavour too.

It's nice to vary it so that sometimes you have broth with lumps in and sometimes it's blended into a thick and creamy soup. There are many diets that suggest making a broth and then taking out the veg and drinking the liquor as a mid morning snack etc...