The Selfish Generation

ukcarper

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I said older people. Every owning majority on your homeowning vs renting graphic would fit that category surely. Apart from perhaps the 35's to 49's, but I am not sure that late 40s counts as young.

The oldest boomer, is currently 68.

The youngest boomer, is presently 50.

Boomers have benefited more than they have suffered.

The young of today will suffer more than they will benefit. On average.

I replied to you saying most home owners were boomers which they clearly are not.


I agree people under 35 are finding it hard things might or might not improve in the long term, but to put the blame for that on boomers is ridiculous.

RevolvingDoor

I do feel sorry for under 30's in regards to housing, especially in London and the South East. I think quite a few of them voted Lib Dem because they believed their promises and were put off from voting since then. I think young people have to vote though or they will just get sidelined. I was speaking to a few young people who said now they spoil their ballot papers but I have no idea what the point of that would be?!

ruggedtoast

ukcarper wrote: »

I replied to you saying most home owners were boomers which they clearly are not.


I agree people under 35 are finding it hard things might or might not improve in the long term, but to put the blame for that on boomers is ridiculous.

Why, because YOU are a boomer? And therefore protective of the interests and reputations of boomers.

Or rather because you have carefully and dispassionately assessed the role of the boomers and decided them not at fault?

I suspect the former, personally.

ukcarper

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Why, because YOU are a boomer? And therefore protective of the interests and reputations of boomers.

Or rather because you have carefully and dispassionately assessed the role of the boomers and decided them not at fault?

I suspect the former, personally.

I've asked you several times to explain how the average boomers has shafted the young and you haven't answered.

The average boomer had a worse eduction than younger people and does not live in a lovely village opposing any new development.

Linton

ringo_24601 wrote: »

The boomers caught the ride of post-war prosperity; and their children are watching as their country becomes a shell of its former self.

Rubbish. Even now most people have a standard of living way beyond that of the vast majority of 40 years ago. The problem is that some of the young (at least those with the free time to post on this board) think that this affluence is a right, not something to be earned, because they have seen and experienced nothing else.

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Linton wrote: »

Rubbish. Even now most people have a standard of living way beyond that of the vast majority of 40 years ago. The problem is that some of the young (at least those with the free time to post on this board) think that this affluence is a right, not something to be earned, because they have seen and experienced nothing else.

How about 10 years ago, or 20 years go?

Something must be happening for such a constant deluge of articles about how hard it is for people now

ruggedtoast

ukcarper wrote: »

I've asked you several times to explain how the average boomers has shafted the young and you haven't answered.

The average boomer had a worse eduction than younger people and does not live in a lovely village opposing any new development.

The shafting is in the article, I already posted the article.

• Housing
• Pensions
• Privatisations
• Council house sell offs
• University tuition fees
• The NHS
• Mass inter-generational wealth transfer
• Outsourcing
• Collapse of the trade unions

90% of lovely villages have no developments near them are occupied by boomers.

FACT.

quantic

To be honest, as a 20 something - I barely sleep at night...

Living in a country which has relatively few actual real problems, no conflict or wars, an absolute abundance of food which is the cheapest it has ever been in history, even the poorest of society are living in houses which many of the richest could only dream of 100 years ago.

I can order anything I want and have it delivered next day for a small cost. Health care has never been better, technological advances mean fewer and fewer people are doing manual labor jobs which cause long term health issues when they retire.

Generally speaking we live in the most tolerant society that has ever existed, people are treated more equally than ever before in history, could we do better sure but the momentum is swinging in the correct direction.

Housing, food, and the other of life's necessities can be purchases for a relatively small sum of money, yes people on minimum wage or zero hour contracts may find it difficult to maintain an active social life and may have to struggle on a iPhone 4 instead of the new ones but they will be able to buy food and if we are all honest with ourselves most of us have way more than we actually need.

Do other generations potentially have it better than us? I used to think so, sure the guy i bought my house off paid 1/5 of what I paid him for it but he also lived through a war and many more real actual problems, that threatened his life, not ones that just threatened his social life.

ruggedtoast

quantic wrote: »

To be honest, as a 20 something - I barely sleep at night...

Living in a country which has relatively few actual real problems, no conflict or wars, an absolute abundance of food which is the cheapest it has ever been in history, even the poorest of society are living in houses which many of the richest could only dream of 100 years ago.

I can order anything I want and have it delivered next day for a small cost. Health care has never been better, technological advances mean fewer and fewer people are doing manual labor jobs which cause long term health issues when they retire.

Generally speaking we live in the most tolerant society that has ever existed, people are treated more equally than ever before in history, could we do better sure but the momentum is swinging in the correct direction.

Housing, food, and the other of life's necessities can be purchases for a relatively small sum of money, yes people on minimum wage or zero hour contracts may find it difficult to maintain an active social life and may have to struggle on a iPhone 4 instead of the new ones but they will be able to buy food and if we are all honest with ourselves most of us have way more than we actually need.

Do other generations potentially have it better than us? I used to think so, sure the guy i bought my house off paid 1/5 of what I paid him for it but he also lived through a war and many more real actual problems, that threatened his life, not ones that just threatened his social life.

Splitter.


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Linton

ringo_24601 wrote: »

How about 10 years ago, or 20 years go?

The general standard of living is subject to short term fluctuations and 10 years is pretty short term. One advantage we older boomers have is to be able to see things from a broad perspective. Events the young think presage the end of the world cause us to simply shrug our shoulders. It and worse have happened before. Some people suffered then as now - consider the mining communities whose industry and whole way of life was destroyed in the 1980s. Prior to then they were the most important group of working people in the country, now little remains except a few country parks and museums.

To answer your question, 10 years perhaps a slight decline, 20 years rather higher standard of living now.