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ANPR Ltd Charge Notice

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  • Bessdog
    Bessdog Posts: 61 Forumite
    Sorry I think there were some in the form I sent in but it came back like this in the confirmation email
  • Bessdog wrote: »
    Is there a template for that letter on here - could you point me in the right direction please
    There are no templates at this stage, as a rebuttal is very dependent on what was said. You need to go through each claim that ANPR make, that is not already explicitly addresses in your appeal, and say, "ANPR claim that the sky is orange. This is the reason why that claim is false."
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,390 Forumite
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    Oh dear. Just a quick scan over that wall of text shows this to be a Civil Enforcement Ltd POPLA appeal and you've got an ANPR Ltd PCN. This is a bit of a mess.

    You can't put Civil Enforcement Ltd to strict proof over anything that ANPR Ltd has or hasn't done.

    I'm at a bit of a loss as to what to advise here to be certain of a easy solution.

    1. You could do a 'find and replace' on 'Civil Enforcement Ltd' and 'CEL' and replace with ANPR Ltd in the above appeal and resubmit to POPLA with some plausible reason why you are doing so, but if you're already past the POPLA deadline I'm not sure how they would react. Or,

    2. Just work on rebutting the ANPR Ltd Evidence checklist, send it off and hope the POPLA assessor doesn't go through your appeal too closely and spot the error, rather just homing in on GPEOL. Would be interesting from our point of view, but I don't think its a great deal for you OP.

    If any other regular has any other thoughts I hope they'll be able to pitch in.

    For certain OP, you must get started on your rebuttal. But still, all is not lost, even if this causes the adjudication to go against you at POPLA, the decision is not binding on you, and we can advise on strategy if that happens.

    Hopefully someone will be along shortly, keep checking back.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 161,380 Forumite
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    I'm not sure what to say - a CEL appeal sent about an ANPR Ltd case?! And an OP who can't simply read the ANPR Ltd evidence and see that it is clearly sh1te and just write a simple email to POPLA to point out where? Oh dear - needs someone more patient than me to help this person.

    Is English your first language?
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
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  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,712 Forumite
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    Do not ever just copy and paste, if your using a template try and understand it, take it apart bit by bit so you can get your head round each part, add to it if needed maybe take some stuff out if its irrelevant re-assemble it to suit your needs -and if in doubt ask.

    Whilst ANPR may seem a joke outlet - especially if you know their game, many people out there don't know the game and to them its an incredibly bad joke, anyone who lets Trev and Co onto their land should be first and foremost in the firing line.
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,390 Forumite
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    anyone who lets Trev and Co onto their land should be first and foremost in the firing line.

    I'm sure Michael Green will be sending owd Trev a Christmas card, just to introduce himself.

    Might put Trev off this year's fill of turkey and plum pud, burp, prrt! :snow_laug
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    Umkomaas wrote: »
    I'm sure Michael Green will be sending owd Trev a Christmas card, just to introduce himself.

    Might put Trev off this year's fill of turkey and plum pud, burp, prrt! :snow_laug
    Indeed. Sitting on the terrace at a certain location in Benalmadena of course.
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
  • Bessdog
    Bessdog Posts: 61 Forumite
    So I have made a right hash of things - am I best just paying the fine and getting it over and done with

    I didnt understand it when I did it and I couldnt find this thread to ask questions only the one where you put popla decisions
  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
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    It's not a FINE and you don't have to pay it, especially as we are talking about ANPR who will never take you to court.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 161,380 Forumite
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    edited 13 November 2014 at 7:40PM
    Bessdog wrote: »
    So I have made a right hash of things - am I best just paying the fine and getting it over and done with

    I didnt understand it when I did it and I couldnt find this thread to ask questions only the one where you put popla decisions
    No of course you don't PAY! Anyone who pays ANPR Ltd is an idiot, please don't. And it is not a fine!

    Why didn't you watch this when you joined up, if you are not familiar with forums?

    New To The Forum?

    To find any posts you have made you just click on your own username, on any forum. Try it now, click on your username. Why didn't you try a few things to learn about forums first, or watch the instructions that MSE provides (the link I have given you)?

    Funnily enough I think despite the 'hash' made so far, you will still win the POPLA appeal but of course you should email POPLA and tell them you accidentally put 'CEL' where you had meant to replace that with 'ANPR Ltd' throughout your appeal. And it's clear there has been no loss which was one of your appeal points (then add anything else about the 'evidence' which is trash and which you want to rebut).

    Can't believe you copied & pasted a letter about a different firm. Did you not read it? Do you not normally read things before sending formal letters? Astonishing.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
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