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is this right

Found out the company who is making myself and 4 others redundant has been knocking back copious amounts of work. Can this be right, it's a big company, is not in any financial difficulty, they have told us that the volume of work is not there, we have discovered otherwise.
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  • ohreally
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    What was their response when you confronted them with this information?
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  • teedy23 wrote: »
    Found out the company who is making myself and 4 others redundant has been knocking back copious amounts of work. Can this be right, it's a big company, is not in any financial difficulty, they have told us that the volume of work is not there, we have discovered otherwise.


    The reason they have given is true. There isn't enough work because they are not taking the work there. There is nothing in the law that says they must take it. It's their business and if they don't want the work that is their decision. In that respect it is "right" - they do not have to justify to anyone why they aren't taking the work available.


    It would only become "wrong" if they then replaced you with new employees as a result of taking on more of this work - and in effect that would be within a three month period. If you have evidence that the work is being knocked back then you should raise that with the employer formally, as that will provide you with a base line for evidence, should the employer attempt to then later argue an upturn in work has resulted in the need to employ new staff.
  • Just because work was being knocked back doesn't mean it was profitable or even wanted.
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  • getmore4less
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    The reason they have given is true. There isn't enough work because they are not taking the work there. There is nothing in the law that says they must take it. It's their business and if they don't want the work that is their decision. In that respect it is "right" - they do not have to justify to anyone why they aren't taking the work available.


    It would only become "wrong" if they then replaced you with new employees as a result of taking on more of this work - and in effect that would be within a three month period. If you have evidence that the work is being knocked back then you should raise that with the employer formally, as that will provide you with a base line for evidence, should the employer attempt to then later argue an upturn in work has resulted in the need to employ new staff.

    There is no three months if they can show there is a genuine reason for redundancy they can make people redundant.

    If there is an upturn they can reemploy and there is no obligation to take back the same people.
  • getmore4less
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    Find out where the work is going they may need people.
  • There is no three months if they can show there is a genuine reason for redundancy they can make people redundant.

    If there is an upturn they can reemploy and there is no obligation to take back the same people.


    Which is why I said that base line evidence would help provide a position for unfair dismissal. If the employees can show that there was work refused for no good reason and then work was accepted with new recruitment, that makes a case. I do not say it is a case that would win because that is a prediction based on unknown facts in the future. But the employer would have to be able to show that an "upturn" was a result of new "facts" and demand. What might happen in the future is not evidence that the reasons for redundancy now are fair - nor that they are not. The OP suspects they are not. So it bears watching.
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