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Scottish Power Tariff - help please

Can someone help me please? I have just been looking at my Scottish Power bills and on the bill the charging is down as primary and secondary units. Yet when I look for information about my tariff (ONLINE FIXED PRICE ENERGY JULY 2015) the charging is in a daily charge. Am I missing something here or can a daily charge be translated to primary and secondary units or vice versa? At the moment I am just confused. Thanks for any help anyone can give me on this.:)

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  • victor2
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    You are presumably talking about electricity and are on economy 7?
    You have a daily standing charge, which you pay regardless of how much you use. Then you have a day-time rate per kWh and a night-time rate per kWh. These could be referred to as rate 1 and rate 2.
    Older tariffs might have had primary and secondary rates without a standing charge, but they have been phased out in favour of the standing charge and one rate now.

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  • Ook_Lil
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    You will get a daily standing charge on both gas and electricity with Scottish Power as well as prices for your kw's of gas and electricity. I left Scottish Power and moved to Npower as they do not have a standing charge on the electricity and so far, touch wood, everything is just fine with them. I even pay by quarterly dd on what I use which I prefer, my money is in my pocket so to speak instead of in their pocket, if you get my drift. (Sorry if I have gone off your subject a bit).
  • No - neither of these are so. I must not have explained it right. I am not on an economy 7 meter. The info I have both from Scottish Power (on their website) and on my bill reads:

    The Scottish Power info for the tariff says:

    Online Fixed Price Energy July 2015 Offer

    Gas Prices , excluding VAT, including VAT
    Supply Area Daily Standing Charge, All kWh, Daily Standing Charge, All kWh
    23 Yorkshire 31.97p, 3.210p, 33.57p, 3.371p

    On my bill it says:

    You are on our ONLINE FIXED PRICE ENERGY JULY 2015 product

    Standard Gas Meter number
    Start Reading
    End Reading
    573 Customer read 28 Feb 14
    627 Customer read 31 Mar 14
    Units used 54 = 1719.08 KWh (kilowatt-hrs) used
    01/03/14 to 31/03/14 Consumption charge, secondary 1491.08 kWh x 3.094p = £ 46.13
    01/03/14 to 31/03/14 Consumption charge, primary 228 kWh x 7.026p = £ 16.02
  • shammyjack
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    You are on a non standing charge tariff.

    The first few hundred kwh per annum are charged at a higher rate , this is split on a daily basis , after using this amount at the higher rate you go onto the lower rate per kwh.

    This should roughly equate to the same as a tariff with standing charges over the year .
  • victor2
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    Bit clearer now, but still a little confusing. Clearly nothing to do with Economy 7.
    What tariff were you on in March of this year? Presumably not the ONLINE FIXED PRICE ENERGY JULY 2015 one, but one with no standing charge and a primary and secondary rate instead.
    The primary rate basically made sure you paid an annual fixed amount, so long as you used at least 228kWh a month, which most people will. So you were effectively paying 3.094p per kWH plus something like 29p per day standing charge (bit of arithmetic required to get that, but not rocket science).
    So, you are now on a fixed tariff with the rates you show. A little bit higher than you were paying on the old tariff, but that is to be expected really.

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  • Cardew
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    treasures wrote: »
    No - neither of these are so. I must not have explained it right. I am not on an economy 7 meter. The info I have both from Scottish Power (on their website) and on my bill reads:

    The Scottish Power info for the tariff says:

    Online Fixed Price Energy July 2015 Offer

    Gas Prices , excluding VAT, including VAT
    Supply Area Daily Standing Charge, All kWh, Daily Standing Charge, All kWh
    23 Yorkshire 31.97p, 3.210p, 33.57p, 3.371p

    On my bill it says:

    You are on our ONLINE FIXED PRICE ENERGY JULY 2015 product

    Standard Gas Meter number
    Start Reading
    End Reading
    573 Customer read 28 Feb 14
    627 Customer read 31 Mar 14
    Units used 54 = 1719.08 KWh (kilowatt-hrs) used
    01/03/14 to 31/03/14 Consumption charge, secondary 1491.08 kWh x 3.094p = £ 46.13
    01/03/14 to 31/03/14 Consumption charge, primary 228 kWh x 7.026p = £ 16.02


    Well there is a mistake on your part or Scottish Power - probably the latter!


    ONLINE FIXED PRICE ENERGY JULY 2015 has a Daily Standing Charge(DSC) and a single unit(kWh)rate for gas and electricity.


    The figures you have given in the last part of your post(in red) are not for ONLINE FIXED PRICE ENERGY JULY 2015. They are for an older tariff where there was no DSC and you paid primary and secondary rates for gas/electricity units(kWh)


    Have you changed to ONLINE FIXED PRICE ENERGY JULY 2015 since 31 Mar 2014?
  • Thanks for all your help. I think that the time I changed onto the July 2015 tariff was around April. Up to then I was on a daily charge tariff. I need to look into this further and look at other bills around the time of the change and see what they say. Watch this space.....
  • Bark01
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    edited 6 November 2014 at 4:58PM
    I think its the other way round, your previous tariff was banded - we don't know what this is.

    Your new tariff Online Fixed Price July 2015 has a standing charge, it went on sale 8th April 2014. Any product sold post July 2013 would need to have a standing charge.

    The prices you supplied for the banded product Match ONLINE FIXED PRICE ENERGY MARCH 2014. This ties in with dates provided.

    So it looks like you were on March 2014 this ended and you opted to move onto July 2015. Your bill only covers the period up until March 2014 ended.

    I can't be certain but I think I remember reading something on here about Scottish Power sending out two bills when the billing period covers a product closure, with one bill being for each product.
  • footyguy
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    treasures wrote: »
    No - neither of these are so. I must not have explained it right. I am not on an economy 7 meter. The info I have both from Scottish Power (on their website) and on my bill reads:

    The Scottish Power info for the tariff says:

    Online Fixed Price Energy July 2015 Offer

    Gas Prices , excluding VAT, including VAT
    Supply Area Daily Standing Charge, All kWh, Daily Standing Charge, All kWh
    23 Yorkshire 31.97p, 3.210p, 33.57p, 3.371p

    On my bill it says:

    You are on our ONLINE FIXED PRICE ENERGY JULY 2015 product

    Standard Gas Meter number
    Start Reading
    End Reading
    573 Customer read 28 Feb 14
    627 Customer read 31 Mar 14
    Units used 54 = 1719.08 KWh (kilowatt-hrs) used
    01/03/14 to 31/03/14 Consumption charge, secondary 1491.08 kWh x 3.094p = £ 46.13
    01/03/14 to 31/03/14 Consumption charge, primary 228 kWh x 7.026p = £ 16.02
    treasures wrote: »
    Thanks for all your help. I think that the time I changed onto the July 2015 tariff was around April. Up to then I was on a daily charge tariff. I need to look into this further and look at other bills around the time of the change and see what they say. Watch this space.....

    You've only quoted prices for before you switched tariff i.e March 2014.

    Wheres the prices and consumption details since then??? :huh:
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