Applying for new job... should I tell them about holiday?

CCFC_80

Torry_Quine wrote: »

So rather than mention a holiday you would wait and then if offered the job say then? Just seems the wrong way round to me and very risky as they may change their minds then about the job.

Yes, the fact that they didn't mention holidays at interview comes across as sloppy interviewing and they are obviously not bothered that you might have holidays booked. To volunteer that information at interview would not give me any advantage over other candidates and might be detrimental to my application.

I also take the view of a previous poster and state it would be unlikely the job offer would be withdrawn as they have the best candidate for the role and will try and accommodate that.

bristol_pilot

I would not mention this at interview unless specifically asked, as it could be detrimental to your application - even if just for suggesting that you would rather be on holiday than at work. It's only one step away from the old classic job-killer of asking if you can have every Friday off for the football.

Whether you mention it after receiving a job offer is up to you, but you should not assume that the Company will allow you to have the time off for your pre-booked holiday. Some companies have rules that new employees cannot take leave for the first X weeks/months of employment, or it might just not be convenient when considering what work they had lined up for you to do. So don't mention it before starting if you want, but you must be prepared to cancel your holiday ultimately if it came to that.

CCFC_80

bristol_pilot wrote: »

So don't mention it before starting if you want, but you must be prepared to cancel your holiday ultimately if it came to that.

I think common sense shows that it should be mentioned by the candidate at the confirmed job offer stage, not before or after that. No-one wants to cancel their holiday after forking out hundreds/thousands of pounds.

anamenottaken

Torry_Quine wrote: »

As I said the wage is usually a set amount in my experience so will be clearly set-out anyway. In fact don't people know the wage from the advert or information sent out?

I think your experience of job hunting may be in limited fields.

In my experience it is more likely that a candidate won't know the exact salary when applying for and being interviewed for a job.

Very often the salary is quoted as being in a range and it is not always that a new starter would start at the bottom of that range.

However, a candidate shouldn't themselves raise that at an interview. An exception (and there's always an exception, isn't there?) may be where the role is in sales.

Torry_Quine

anamenottaken wrote: »

I think your experience of job hunting may be in limited fields.

In my experience it is more likely that a candidate won't know the exact salary when applying for and being interviewed for a job.

Very often the salary is quoted as being in a range and it is not always that a new starter would start at the bottom of that range.

However, a candidate shouldn't themselves raise that at an interview. An exception (and there's always an exception, isn't there?) may be where the role is in sales.

Your experience seems equally limited to me though. I can't imagine ever going for a job without knowing the pay.

mgdavid

Torry_Quine wrote: »

Your experience seems equally limited to me though. I can't imagine ever going for a job without knowing the pay.

I'm genuinely baffled how you connect those two sentences. Apart from public sector when did one last see a salary mentioned in job ads? 25 years ago maybe? If a candidate has the right skills and attitude then the employer will usually pay whatever is needed to obtain them.

DKLS

mgdavid wrote: »

I'm genuinely baffled how you connect those two sentences. Apart from public sector when did one last see a salary mentioned in job ads? 25 years ago maybe? If a candidate has the right skills and attitude then the employer will usually pay whatever is needed to obtain them.

Apart from a handful every job advert I see has a salary listed, I don't bother applying if they don't list salary as in my experience its usually because they want all the skills and experience but are paying well under sector average.. I was contacted for two jobs last week, and one of my first questions was whats the package?, as the salary was listed but not package.

CCFC_80

DKLS wrote: »

Apart from a handful every job advert I see has a salary listed, I don't bother applying if they don't list salary as in my experience its usually because they want all the skills and experience but are paying well under sector average.. I was contacted for two jobs last week, and one of my first questions was whats the package?, as the salary was listed but not package.

Debatable whether not applying is the best option. You could always ask salary prior to application. I have been to several interviews in the past when salary has never been mentioned and always told best policy is also for the candidate not to mention it.

You could then again use it to your advantage if offered the job stating you won't do it for less than X amount. True they can withdraw it but they have the first choice candidate in their hands and might want to accommodate them.