Applying for new job... should I tell them about holiday?

duchy

Torry_Quine wrote: »

Depends on the type of job. There are many where there are no negotiations on salary and conditions these are set-down.

I would always say at interview is the time to tell of any time off you know you will need.

Depends what industry you work in and the level of the job. What kind of employment are you talking about Torry?

If asked at the interview of course you should mention it -but otherwise after offer but before acceptance is customary and sensible.

Takeaway_Addict

CCFC_80 wrote: »

You need to read previous posts. The emphasis is on the interviewer to ask the question. If they don't ask the question then the candidate can use that to their advantage if they are offered the job by stating that the job offer is acceptable to them on condition that holidays already booked are honoured.

And the interviewer can subsequently pull it and go with number 2

TELLIT01

It depends on which of 2 bad options the OP would prefer.

1. Not get offered a job because pre-booked holiday dates conflict with dates a prospective employer needs him at to be available or
2. Being offered a job and then told the offer is being withdrawn because holiday dates can't be honoured by the prospective employer, and they aren't impressed that important information was not provided at interview.

CCFC_80

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

And the interviewer can subsequently pull it and go with number 2

And if the interviewer would have done their job properly in the first place by asking a simple bog standard interview question, Candidate 2 would have been offered the job if not honouring holiday committments was an issue.

It might be cutting off their nose to spite their face The fact that candidate 1 is obviously the best candidate for the job but they don't want to give it to them as they have a holiday booked. They would rather give it to second choice even though they are not the best candidate.

TELLIT01 wrote: »

It depends on which of 2 bad options the OP would prefer.

1. Not get offered a job because pre-booked holiday dates conflict with dates a prospective employer needs him at to be available or
2. Being offered a job and then told the offer is being withdrawn because holiday dates can't be honoured by the prospective employer, and they aren't impressed that important information was not provided at interview.

If they are not impressed then blame the interviewer for not asking a simple question which every interviewer should ask.
Why are you siding with the interviewer as it's their own fault?

anamenottaken

TELLIT01 wrote: »

It depends on which of 2 bad options the OP would prefer.

1. Not get offered a job because pre-booked holiday dates conflict with dates a prospective employer needs him at to be available or
2. Being offered a job and then told the offer is being withdrawn because holiday dates can't be honoured by the prospective employer, and they aren't impressed that important information was not provided at interview.

Option 2 is particularly unlikely - having decided someone is just who they want, an employer is then more likely to accommodate the leave request. Option 1 is still unlikely but the reason for the requirement should become evident during interviews.

An employer recruiting now has time to make arrangements for April.

However it's best not to give them a reason not to offer in the first place.

Torry_Quine

CCFC_80 wrote: »

Why, Shouldn't it be up to them to ask the question at the interview?

If they don't ask that doesn't mean you shouldn't mention it, unless you want to risk that any potential offer may be removed.

duchy wrote: »

Depends what industry you work in and the level of the job. What kind of employment are you talking about Torry?

If asked at the interview of course you should mention it -but otherwise after offer but before acceptance is customary and sensible.

I or my husband have never gone for a job where the pay was not set down as well as amount of holidays etc. In fact my husband has been in a job where they were told exactly when holidays were to be taken including summer holidays in June!! Jobs such as care work, hospitals teaching etc have a given rate and that's it. It seems strange to me that the job doesn't have a set amount paid.

I do think it courtesy to say at interview and people have been told if you take the job then you can't take that holiday if not told about prior to offer being made.

CCFC_80

Torry_Quine wrote: »

If they don't ask that doesn't mean you shouldn't mention it, unless you want to risk that any potential offer may be removed.

They should ask, It should be in 1 of the top 3 most important questions to ask when interviewing a candidate. Similar to the salary question, if they don't mention that then you shouldn't mention it either.

Torry_Quine

CCFC_80 wrote: »

They should ask, It should be in 1 of the top 3 most important questions to ask when interviewing a candidate. Similar to the salary question, if they don't mention that then you shouldn't mention it either.

As I said the wage is usually a set amount in my experience so will be clearly set-out anyway. In fact don't people know the wage from the advert or information sent out?

CCFC_80

Torry_Quine wrote: »

As I said the wage is usually a set amount in my experience so will be clearly set-out anyway. In fact don't people know the wage from the advert or information sent out?

I was only using the salary statement as an example to the first point about not mentioning holidays booked and some people on here stating you should mention about holidays booked even if not asked at interview

Any person with half a brain is not going to submit information voluntarilly if it might be detriment to their application.

Torry_Quine

CCFC_80 wrote: »

I was only using the salary statement as an example to the first point about not mentioning holidays booked and some people on here stating you should mention about holidays booked even if not asked at interview

Any person with half a brain is not going to submit information voluntarilly if it might be detriment to their application.

So rather than mention a holiday you would wait and then if offered the job say then? Just seems the wrong way round to me and very risky as they may change their minds then about the job.