Maiden Name and Parents Address on PCN from NPE

Coupon-mad

That's good, for you! It means they have never issued a PCN and had no reasonable cause to get your data this quick as they didn't use ANPR cameras (which is the only type of PCN the DVLA and BPA would 'allow' them to issue by post just 3 days after the parking event). You should treat this as if it was a 'drive away' PCN as per the links here:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/66800253#Comment_66800253

I would put right the error in the challenge you plan to send - certainly remove the last line entirely as you really should not be talking about what happened, it's irrelevant. That's why you need NOT to use a template from MSE articles about parking, but instead go by the NEWBIES sticky thread here. I would use the template in the sticky thread and add another point to the effect that you have complained to the BPA and DVLA as there is no audit trail in sending a hybrid 'postal PCN' so there was no reasonable cause to obtain your data. They had to issue a windscreen PCN first, where ANPR is not used.

And complain to the BPA and DVLA about this member posting a PCN when it's not an ANPR case, when this puts it outwith the KADOE rules the DVLA have in place, to ensure a proper audit trail. The data should never have been released by the DVLA as NPE had no grounds to ask for it, as they don't use ANPR and have no audit trail of a windscreen PCN. Must be a sanctionable offence of the BPA Code I reckon, so be assertive in your complaints without saying who was driving!!!

vhync

Thanks again for all your help. After reading the template in the sticky thread again this morning, I had decided that I'd prefer to use that.

I am unsure about complaining to BPA and DVLA, because I don't understand why you are so sure that NPE didn't use ANPR cameras.

Although something that I haven't mentioned yet may relate to this. In that I had received a PCN from them before, maybe 2 or 3 years ago. It was from parking in the same car park, which belongs to a pub. I was in the pub with family at the time, but had forgotten to use whatever system they had at then. This was cancelled by then landlady who I was friendly with, but had just moved to another job.

Coupon-mad

vhync wrote: »

Thanks again for all your help. After reading the template in the sticky thread again this morning, I had decided that I'd prefer to use that.

I am unsure about complaining to BPA and DVLA, because I don't understand why you are so sure that NPE didn't use ANPR cameras.

Because thy don't have them AFAIK and because you can tell from the NTK, are there pics taken from cameras high up on poles, which zoom in on the numberplate (yes or no?). I think no? Look at a ParkingEye example by Googling 'Parking Eye PCN' and searching for a thread with a pic. That's what an ANPR Notice to Keeper looks like.

vhync

I've now seen the camera that I think must have been used. It is quite high, but looks like a CCTV camera. Could that be ANPR?When I googeled for ParkingEye example by Googling 'Parking Eye PCN', I didn't find much, but when I

vhync

Hit something by accident::

...I didn't find much, but when I ... changed the search to images, the ANPR cameras didn't look like that

Called in at the pub, and the landlord said that he would get it cancelled, because my dad is a regular. But my dad said that he wouldn't trust him as far as he could throw him.

So, should I go ahead with the challenge to the PCN, go with the landlord getting it cancelled, or both?

Umkomaas

Both.

Trust nothing until you get confirmation in writing from the PPC that the charge is cancelled. Many have been complacent in this context - to their detriment. Keep going!

vhync

Thanks, that was my gut feeling. Why was the wheel clamping stopped, but this lot carries on?

Umkomaas

vhync wrote: »

Thanks, that was my gut feeling. Why was the wheel clamping stopped, but this lot carries on?

Oh, this was what Norman Baker Lib Dem (of recent Home Office resignation fame) thought would be a far better 'deal' for the motorist (or a fig leaf to erstwhile knuckle-dragging clampers)!