Renting - Smashed window

billybear1

DtSje wrote: »

I don't feel like I should have to pay for the repair, as it's ridiculous that the window on a door would fall apart so easily.

Look at it from the LL's perspective though, they would expect the house to be left in the state you moved into it in - why should they foot the bill as its ridiculous you left your keys at home.

I'm sorry but in this instance, I would take a step back and look at what your stating, you broke GLASS and you think you shouldn't pay for it because it was not solid enough when you applied pressure to it? Your renting someones property, this does not entitle you to point and cry wolf when something goes wrong and claim it at their expense.

tykesi

Unfortunately just another example of someone not taking responsibility for their actions and try to find someone else to blame.

'Where there's blame, there's a claim' has a lot to answer for!

DtSje

As I stated earlier, I am fully prepared to pay for it. Fortunately, I'm in a financial position where it's not too much of an issue.

I was interested in where I stood, however, as it was only a rap with the knuckles, nowhere near enough force that would usually be required to shatter a window. And to clarify, I wasn't drunk as I had just returned home from work.

I've already been in contact with a glazier, who will replace both for £125. At this point I don't there's much else to say, just something to chalk up to experience!

princeofpounds

Where in law does it state that repairing broken glazing is the Landlord's responsibility?

Section 11 Landlord and Tenant Act 1985, as long as damage was not caused by the tenant.

[Deleted User]

Thanks princeofpounds. But could really have done with that a couple of years ago - useful info I will store.

AlexMac

McKneff wrote: »

Buy a pane of glass to fit, buy a tub of putty. Clean out where you are going to put it. Put a little putty round, sit glass in, put a V of putty in. Job done... a few quid.

Nice idea, and that's the way I'd do it, but McKneff ignores a generational trend. DiTsY (or whoever) has found someone who'll do it for £125 rather than " a few quid" . Which on balance is probably safer if (s)he hasn't a clue about small practical jobs. DIY Stores are closing because, as yesterday's paper says 'DIY is in decline because today's men are too soft' lol
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11186150/DIY-is-in-decline-because-todays-men-are-too-soft.html

G_M

ali_hire wrote: »

Where in law does it state that repairing broken glazing is the Landlord's responsibility?

As princeofpounds says:

Landlord & Tenant Act 1985

Though even if the tenant caused the damage, the obligation is on the LL to repair. Difference is he can claim the cost back if tenant caused the damage.

ali_hire

It doesn't state that the landlord is responsible for replacing broken windows. Whilst I appreciate that an Act written 30 years ago can't cover every possible eventuality I think there's a strong argument that this falls under using the property in a tenant-like manner.

I've had several tenants complain about this clause over the years; two particular examples spring to mind.

The first was a tenant who called the council when my landlord refused refused to budge. The EHO visited the property and, when shown the tenancy, agreed that the tenant was responsible for the repair.

In the second our tenant flatly refused to repair the window stating that he would "just leave it broken" as he was moving out in a few weeks.

The landlord paid for the repair because he wanted the property to be secure and we then claimed it from the deposit. MyDeposits' arbitrators ruled in our favour and awarded us the cost of the invoice.

Neither of these are a court of law, I appreciate.

thesaint

ali_hire wrote: »

It doesn't state that the landlord is responsible for replacing broken windows. Whilst I appreciate that an Act written 30 years ago can't cover every possible eventuality I think there's a strong argument that this falls under using the property in a tenant-like manner.

I've had several tenants complain about this clause over the years; two particular examples spring to mind.

The first was a tenant who called the council when my landlord refused refused to budge. The EHO visited the property and, when shown the tenancy, agreed that the tenant was responsible for the repair.

In the second our tenant flatly refused to repair the window stating that he would "just leave it broken" as he was moving out in a few weeks.

The landlord paid for the repair because he wanted the property to be secure and we then claimed it from the deposit. MyDeposits' arbitrators ruled in our favour and awarded us the cost of the invoice.

Neither of these are a court of law, I appreciate.

You are disagreeing with people whom are saying exactly what you are saying.

leveller2911

aggypanthus wrote: »

If it was the front door it should be safety glass, did it crumble or go into shards? Keep bit of it as proof, get a glazier to confirm. The LL may be held as negligent if its not safetl glass.

Only if the "site line" of the glass is below 1500mm from the finished floor level, if its above 1500mm it can be 4mm float glass. Also ,interestingly ,if any panel is less than 250mm wide it can be 6mm float glass or 6.4 mm laminated glass.