Can i get a second opinion on this please..

lill

oh god, it must be bad if your asking if i want comments.... ive already sent it.. did i just shoot myself in the foot?

Emmzi

No, not at all. I would just have added that obviously your main interest was getting f/t hours... so they knew the balance of your interest was work not study. However either way, you should know where you stand!

lill

this is the HR person who told me ( without knowing if i had agreed to it or not) that the job would become full time, Im hoping she will say but we thought you were going full time?

I can then act all innocent and say "well that's what I had thought only after my conversation with line manager last week which he said he would discuss with you,I thought that had all changed?"

its been over a week now so if it were an official company decision rather than a managers spur of the moment idea to save money, she should know all about it.
BTW the HR dept is out sourced so if she hasn't been informed I don't know if that would would make any difference.

if nothing else my headache has gone

CFC

Lill, you are not being discriminated against. You are both working the contracts that you signed and being paid accordingly. Of course he is being paid more than you in the holidays, he is paid more full stop because his contract is for more hours.

If you do not want to work overtime you do not need to agree to do it.

If they increase your contracted hours you do not have to agree to drop them down at any point in the future. They cannot drop your hours without a written request from you or they are making themselves very vulnerable. You can say, 'oh yes I will drop my hours then' and simply not agree to do it when the time comes. They have no comeback, any more than you do now, unless the contract gives a specific date when the change will take effect.

Unless your contract said 'this role will become full time at some point in the future to be determined' you can forget about what they said when they wanted to induce you to sign it. (Every would-be husband is going to bring you flowers for ever once a week, according to them when they want you to say yes to the proposal!!!) You need to apply in writing for a full time job with them if that's what you want.

I'm not sure how I can make this any clearer.

lill

I haven't signed any contract, neither has mrx.

Its ok ive already resigned myself to the fact that ive left a full time job to move to a company that lies to people to get them on the payroll. I now have no confidence in the company and feel that my position is un tenable. Im just stunned that they can play around with peoples lives like this in this day and age.

I was always lead to believe that what was offered in the interview and the offer of employment even verbally was a contract and that if they then changed what was said in that offer until a written contract was signed that was a breach of contract.
my other issue is that I was only told in a chance discussion that this was now to be the case. This is a massive change in the terms that were offered me, im just stunned that people can operate like this.

SUESMITH_2

lill wrote: »

Hi sue yes I have Im still trying to think which would be most appropriate

hi, what sort of industry do you work in? whatever the gmb is calling itself now would be a good one to join, im in unison at the mo

CFC

lill wrote: »

I haven't signed any contract, neither has mrx.

Its ok ive already resigned myself to the fact that ive left a full time job to move to a company that lies to people to get them on the payroll. ... me, im just stunned that people can operate like this.

Sadly you are not in an unusual situation. I've heard of people handing in their notice and then....the proferred job offer does not arrive in writing, no actual job, the situation has changed....always get it in writing.

lill

well with any luck im right that he just made that decision there on the spot because it would make things easier for him, all i need to do is play the waiting game, its not going to look good for him if he hasn't got staff to cover all the contracts is it

CFC

lill wrote: »

well with any luck im right that he just made that decision there on the spot because it would make things easier for him, all i need to do is play the waiting game, its not going to look good for him if he hasn't got staff to cover all the contracts is it

This is very true. And when your employer realises you are not available to do overtime, although you are available if they would like to increase your contracted hours, the jackpot of having cover handy without an ongoing cost disappears. You may find you get what you want at that point.