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Parking Fine on Pvt Area - Unique Situation
stupndus
Posts: 3 Newbie
Hello everyone,
I have gone though the board and believe the problem I have encountered has not been covered before. If yes, please point me to the thread and apologies in advance.
Ok here is the scenario, my wife stopped at a 'private' area next to Uxbridge Town Center for almost 4-5 mins. She was in the car all the time and the car was never stopped. She initially did not notice the 'terms and conditions' board which indicated that stopping is prohibited. Once she noticed that she drove off.
Now here is the problem, the alleged offence took place late July and we had moved houses late May. I changed my registration address late July/early August (dont remember exactly when). A ticket was apparently issued by "Park Direct UK Limited" but I never received it as it must have been sent to the old address. In early Sep I received a letter from Debt Recovery Plus limited that I need to pay (£150) as a penalty. Now I have written 2 letters to Debt recovery Plus Limited and one to Park Direct, outlining the whole situation and requesting them to send me the original notice to my new address and give me the opportunity to assess/respond to the original notice. Park Direct hasnt responded by Debt Recovery Plus Ltd has said we took the name from the right source and I need to pay up the full penalty of £150.
I believe this to be a bit unjust since I don't believe my ask is unreasonable and updating of address could be delayed when you are moving home with 2 small kids. My last letter to Park Direct was as follows:
This is with reference to my earlier letter dated 18/09/2014 addressed to your appointed party Debt Recovery Plus which I had cc’d your for your attention. As Debt recovery plus is not addressing my concern, I am writing you directly as the original aggrieved party to re-state my case.
Debt Recovery Plus has written to me atleast twice to chase a penalty charge for alleged parking offence at your property. As per my previous letter, I re-state that as I moved my property on 27 May 2014, I did not receive the original parking charge notice and was unable to assess and respond to it accordingly.
I hereby request (again) that you please re-issue me the original parking charge and also ask your appointed agent (Debt Recovery Plus) to please cease any correspondence with me till I am given the opportunity to assess and respond to your letter.
I have attached copy of my latest letter to Debt Recovery Plus with this.
What do you guys believe I should do. Do you believe my request is unreasonable? Even if (Big IF) it is a valid ticket, in this circumstance shouldnt they re-issue the ticket (£60 fine). After all, their intention is to prevent 'parking/stopping' at their private property rather then it being a business.
P.S. Debt Recovery Plus has send me another letter basically saying pay up the £150 as change of address issue is not their fault.
P.S I came to know about the subsequent notices as I had setup a mail forwarding service (there was a week in late Aug/Early Sep when it was not active, the original 3 months had expired and I renewed a week late).
BIG THANKS in advance.
I have gone though the board and believe the problem I have encountered has not been covered before. If yes, please point me to the thread and apologies in advance.
Ok here is the scenario, my wife stopped at a 'private' area next to Uxbridge Town Center for almost 4-5 mins. She was in the car all the time and the car was never stopped. She initially did not notice the 'terms and conditions' board which indicated that stopping is prohibited. Once she noticed that she drove off.
Now here is the problem, the alleged offence took place late July and we had moved houses late May. I changed my registration address late July/early August (dont remember exactly when). A ticket was apparently issued by "Park Direct UK Limited" but I never received it as it must have been sent to the old address. In early Sep I received a letter from Debt Recovery Plus limited that I need to pay (£150) as a penalty. Now I have written 2 letters to Debt recovery Plus Limited and one to Park Direct, outlining the whole situation and requesting them to send me the original notice to my new address and give me the opportunity to assess/respond to the original notice. Park Direct hasnt responded by Debt Recovery Plus Ltd has said we took the name from the right source and I need to pay up the full penalty of £150.
I believe this to be a bit unjust since I don't believe my ask is unreasonable and updating of address could be delayed when you are moving home with 2 small kids. My last letter to Park Direct was as follows:
This is with reference to my earlier letter dated 18/09/2014 addressed to your appointed party Debt Recovery Plus which I had cc’d your for your attention. As Debt recovery plus is not addressing my concern, I am writing you directly as the original aggrieved party to re-state my case.
Debt Recovery Plus has written to me atleast twice to chase a penalty charge for alleged parking offence at your property. As per my previous letter, I re-state that as I moved my property on 27 May 2014, I did not receive the original parking charge notice and was unable to assess and respond to it accordingly.
I hereby request (again) that you please re-issue me the original parking charge and also ask your appointed agent (Debt Recovery Plus) to please cease any correspondence with me till I am given the opportunity to assess and respond to your letter.
I have attached copy of my latest letter to Debt Recovery Plus with this.
What do you guys believe I should do. Do you believe my request is unreasonable? Even if (Big IF) it is a valid ticket, in this circumstance shouldnt they re-issue the ticket (£60 fine). After all, their intention is to prevent 'parking/stopping' at their private property rather then it being a business.
P.S. Debt Recovery Plus has send me another letter basically saying pay up the £150 as change of address issue is not their fault.
P.S I came to know about the subsequent notices as I had setup a mail forwarding service (there was a week in late Aug/Early Sep when it was not active, the original 3 months had expired and I renewed a week late).
BIG THANKS in advance.
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Not unique at all - go read the NEWBIES thread especially the section on debt collectors.0
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Reasonableness doesn't enter into it, they just want your money and you are wasting your time communicating with them. They will not accept an appeal now, why would they? What's in it for them?
Just ignore everything unless you receive genuine court papers (very, very unlikely).
n.b. next time you move house change your registered address promptly because DVLA enjoys fining people who fail to do so.Je suis Charlie.0 -
Why is it unique?0
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I see nothing unique here...0
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So read the Newbies thread about 'debt collector stage' (post #4 of that sticky) and also put the word 'Recovery' or 'Zenith' (another name DRP use) into 'search this forum' which is a heading above the sticky threads. Then read and get bored by the letter chain just like we are! Can't tell you how many pointless DRP threads you will find, going back years and years, all the same. We've been ignoring this letter chain for a decade. Debt collectors cannot start court cases for PPCs as there is no 'default' on a CCA agreement or any proper debt.I received a letter from Debt Recovery Plus limited
If you get real court papers from the PPC come back but not about the tedious letter chain. Just keep the DRP/Zenith drivel just in case.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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