Hetas registered Why are they so Wicked?

HARSA

I have had 6 quotes from Hetas registered wood burner stove installers for a Hunter Hearld 8 double sided wood burner (already bought the stove). It’s is just mind blowing how greedy and wicked these people are – Here is a breakdown of the quote;
· 5 meters 904 6 inches liner = £650 (you can buy this from reputable flue supplies company for just £177 including VAT)
· Chimney Pot Cowl = £120 ( you can buy this for £54 as a Kit which includes 6by6 inches converter to liner)
· Soffit Plate = £90 ( again can buy for £34)
· Co2 Alarm = £25 (roughly the same price)
· Air Vent = £55 (can pay a builder £30 to stick a vent for me but £55 seem a fair price)
· Hetas Regs = £15 (again is reasonable)
· 6by6 inches converter to liner = £45 (remember this comes as part of the Kit above)
· General Metrials = £28 (no idea what this is but again reasonable)
· Labour = £300 (again reasonable don't mind paying £400)
Note that my fireplace already has a half for the stove to sit on. The chimney on the bungalow is in very good state and there is already an old 5 inches liner for an old gas fire that need to be pulled out and a new 904 6inches liner put in.
I am not an expert but from talking to these people and based on my opinion this is just 3/4 hours of work involved. I completely understand paying a Hetas registered person upto £400 to install the stove. I appreciate tradesmen making a bit on the material and can’t and wouldn’t deny them this but how can they expect to make just under £500 on a liner and charging for things separately when they already come in a Kit at a fraction cost of what they are charging combined?
I appreciate the safety aspect and making sure that we only use gas/electric/stove tradesmen who are registered and certified. I recently used a gas safe person to install a new boiler in the bungalow where all the plumbing pipe work has been done and no old boiler to remove. I paid this person £300 and it was two of them – they spent half a day to install the boiler.
Why are Hetas Installers any different?

Bark01

Do you have to use Hetas installers?

HARSA

Bark01 wrote: »

Do you have to use Hetas installers?

Not at these quotes

There is bound to be an honest one out there so will keep looking.

For piece of mind and my family I prefer a HETAS registered installer

Have to add thatI have spoken to a few more over the phone and minimum price

Is £1000

System

HARSA wrote: »

Not at these quotes

There is bound to be an honest one out there so will keep looking.

For piece of mind and my family I prefer a HETAS registered installer

Have to add thatI have spoken to a few more over the phone and minimum price

Is £1000

It is not just a case of 'piece of mind'. If you don't use an approved installer then you will have to take advice from your local Council Buildings Control. HETAS installers are allowed to self-certify their own installations.

http://www.hetas.co.uk/consumer/certificate-of-compliance/

Quote The HETAS Certificate of Compliance (Building Regulation Compliance Certificate) must be completed and signed only by the HETAS Registered Installer who undertook the work. Unquote

HARSA

[QUOTthrus;66766812]It is not just a case of 'piece of mind'. If you don't use an approved installer then you will have to take advice from your local Council Buildings Control. HETAS installers are allowed to self-certify their own installations.

http://www.hetas.co.uk/consumer/certificate-of-compliance/

Quote The HETAS Certificate of Compliance (Building Regulation Compliance Certificate) must be completed and signed only by the HETAS Registered Installer who undertook the work. Unquote[/QUOTE]


Yes I know that and will definitely be using a HETAS registered installer.
This thread is just pointing out their dishonesty albeit that I am not saying all Hetas installers but the ones I have come across do far

Swipe

Why don't you self install or get a builder to do it for half the price and then get it signed off by your local council building control instead? They won't sign it off if it doesn't comply so you probably get even more peace of mind that way. Whereas the Hetas installer can sign off heir own work no matter how shoddy it may be.

PennyForThem_2

why are you posting here and not on LPG, Oil Burning and Other Forum which is all about wood burning/coal burning stoves?

steampunkmimi

HETAS seem to be load of chancers anyway. We've heard of far too many incompetent and downright dangerous stove installations, all done by people who were HETAS registered. All have been confirmed as non-compliant by HETAS (some leaking carbon monoxide), but all traders are still registered. All that carp about HETAS being the place to go for a trustworthy trader...? No, it's not. They know that those cowboys are on their register, and they don't do a damned thing to prevent them from operating. HETAS are as much use as a chocolate fireguard, IMHO.