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Leasehold roof problem
strangelymad
Posts: 2 Newbie
Hi all,
Long time lurker on this forum but my first post...
I'm currently in the process of buying a leasehold flat - top floor including loft area.
I have an issue that the roof looks as if it might be in need of serious renovation - mossy, slipped tiles, and I think I could see daylight through when looking into the loft. The rest of the flat is in severe need of an update but seems structurally sound.
I would be prepared to pay the freeholder to have this work done after buying, however I'm worried about the freeholder not doing the work necessary, or charging a ridiculous amount. They have a bit of a bad rep -Ground Rents (Regis) from Southend.
My question - how much do you think I should be charged, and how difficult would it be to get the freeholder to do the work for the right price if they decide to be difficult? Should I back out?
Thank you!
PS. I was unable to post a picture - if you know how I can do this please let me know!
Long time lurker on this forum but my first post...
I'm currently in the process of buying a leasehold flat - top floor including loft area.
I have an issue that the roof looks as if it might be in need of serious renovation - mossy, slipped tiles, and I think I could see daylight through when looking into the loft. The rest of the flat is in severe need of an update but seems structurally sound.
I would be prepared to pay the freeholder to have this work done after buying, however I'm worried about the freeholder not doing the work necessary, or charging a ridiculous amount. They have a bit of a bad rep -Ground Rents (Regis) from Southend.
My question - how much do you think I should be charged, and how difficult would it be to get the freeholder to do the work for the right price if they decide to be difficult? Should I back out?
Thank you!
PS. I was unable to post a picture - if you know how I can do this please let me know!
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It's impossible to say what a reasonable cost for repair is without knowing what the real issue is. You will be best advised to get a roofer up there to inspect before agreeing to purchase.
Assuming you find out what's wrong and you're still happy to proceed then the lease should stipulate who pays what proportion for any repairs. Just because you're closest to the roof doesn't mean you end up footing the entire bill.
Is there a sinking fund?0 -
No, no sinking fund or service charge, apparently. I honestly wouldn't mind paying for the whole lot if that's what stipulated in the lease (I'd get this taken off the asking price), if I thought a good job would be done at a fair price.
I'm mainly just very worried that Regis will scam me in some way....
If you search google there are huge issues where they have badly managed and overcharged various leaseholders. :eek:0 -
In theory, there are legal safeguards in place to stop freeholders ripping off leaseholders.
e.g, a major job like repairing the roof would probably go though a section 20 consultation process - which would let you nominate a contractor to get a quote from etc. (Google 'Section 20 Consultation')
The trouble is, if the freeholder is difficult, you may have a big fight on your hands to enforce your rights - with legal expenses, tribunal hearings and maybe court hearings.
It's easier (and more affordable) if other leaseholders fight alongside you. But at this stage, you don't know if they will.
In the worst case, it could be a year or two before the roof gets repaired.
Maybe you should look for a decent discount on the price, to compensate for any potential problems.0 -
As a leaseholder you have a right in seeing all builders quotes and having a say who carries out the work. Courts are well aware that freeholders and management companies/agencies sometimes try to overcharge, and fortunately,there's something you can do about that...and the cost of proceedings will be footed by them if the judge rules they are trying to overcharge you.
If you google Leasehold Valuation Tribunall it will direct you to the correct department for your area and local court. They are EXTREMELY helpful, and they put these rogues in their place. You will find most of the cost will be ordered to pay by them.
Furthermore,mad freeholders they have a legal duty to follow the lease guidance, otherwise they are in danger of breaching the lead, which will cost them immensely. They're also legally bound by the leae to keep the roof and building in good repair. It's their responsibility.
Make an appointment with the CAB.nyou will be surprised at how many rights you have.0 -
Although it is usually the freeholder's responsibility to maintain the structure including the roof, it might not be, especially if there is no service charge. It might be your responsibility as lessee of the top flat - you need to check what the lease says.
This is always important - READ THE LEASE!RICHARD WEBSTER
As a retired conveyancing solicitor I believe the information given in the post to be useful assuming any properties concerned are in England/Wales but I accept no liability for it.0
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