Civil enforcement ltd strikes again

The_Deep

samabbey4 wrote: »

I'm literally not sleeping properly worrying that much!

There is nothing here to worry about, a malfunctioning ticket payment system is hardly your fault, and even if you did enter the wrong data, it could never have cost them the outrageous sum they are demanding.

It is a scam, and one which should be reported to your local Trading Standards Office at the Council where you reside.

I know that it is a PITA, but if you follow the above advice you will cost the PPC and the BPA £120+, well worth the effort i.m.o.

samabbey4

Aw thank you all i defiantely feel at rest! Ill send the template first class on friday then fingers crossed!

bod1467

Defiance - I like that.

fil_cad

Stand up firm to these scammers they pray on frightend soft touches to fill up there filthy bank account.

samabbey4

Hi ive received a letter back today can i post it on here? I have no idea what to send back

Ryan_Bryan

Hi Sam. You can write up the general points if you want. I'm guessing that it's a standard CEL rejection letter. That would be no surprise. If it is did they send a ten digit POPLA verification code. You can check if the code is genuine here.

http://www.parkingcowboys.co.uk/popla-code-checker/

If it is then the next step is to send in your POPLA appeal which you can use by reading Coupon Mad POPLA appeals post three here.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4816822

Adjust it to your own specific case. Above all DO NOT WORRY. You need to realise that CEL are trying to scam you so you should be angry rather than worried.

Coupon-mad

samabbey4 wrote: »

Hi ive received a letter back today can i post it on here? I have no idea what to send back

What - surely you DO?! You have been here a month and it seems you haven't simply looked at 'How to win at POPLA' in the Newbies thread? We won't be writing it for you, it's already here, assuming you have a POPLA code then you simply use the CEL POPLA example and change the wording about signage or other details as appropriate. Sorry but it's unfair on the volunteers here for so many newbies to post such things just saying 'help I am clueless', IMHO. Yes you have a baby - so what I have 4 kids and I can read a thread...you are a Uni student so you can research stuff surely? hrrrrmmmf!

Rant over, sorry. But this is silly.

samabbey4

The first page says the car park has received several problems with unauthorized parking resulting in vehicles being parked for long periods of time and occupying valuable space

The lgeal basis for the ticket we bave issued is contract law...then goes on to say i consent my actions

We refute your assertion that the enforcement notice was not issued in compliance with protection of freedoms act 2012

We reject your proposal to charge CEL for any costs incurred while appealing

The charge falls within british parking associations reccommended guidelines for car park enforcement

Due to data protection we cannot give details of clients or contracts with them

It is the drivers respobsibility to pay this PCN.

The second page gives a popla number and the chance to pay at a reduced price.

Another thing that was said was about how they say either way If i do or do not admit it was me because I am the named driver I am still the one to be charged? Unless i tell them who it was. Section 4 of protection of freedom act

It best for me to just tell the truth (i did pay) and forward a bank statement? Im moving house aswell in two weeks and do not want to tell them. Could that get me in more bother?

Thanks

samabbey4

Also the land the car park is on is currently being sold.. i dont know if that has any relavence

Ryan_Bryan

Well the good news Sam is that you have received a complete pile of Bullshot from CEL. The usual carp on A4. So you have a POPLA code and it's time to use it. Have a good read of the POPLA appeals thread to learn about your next steps.
The sale of the land could be interesting. Once the owner sells the land does any contract that may exist with CEL become retrospectively nulled. A question for the smarter members here.
Just remember that CEL are a bunch of muppets who cannot ever, ever, ever prove GPEOL.