N1 Claim Form received re unpaid&ignore PPC 'ticket'

pgl0897

N1 Claim Form has arrived from Northampton after several months of ignore&ignore.

Fully intend to take this the whole way (if it is worth doing so), even if I end up liable for the full amount. Would be really grateful for some proper advice on it & wording a defence from an experienced Forum member.

Many many thanks in advance.

Fruitcake

pgl0897 wrote: »

N1 Claim Form has arrived from Northampton after several months of ignore&ignore.

Fully intend to take this the whole way (if it is worth doing so), even if I end up liable for the full amount. Would be really grateful for some proper advice on it & wording a defence from an experienced Forum member.

Many many thanks in advance.

The advice on this site has been 'Do Not Ignore" for nearly two years so I'm not sure where you got that idea from.


All the information you need on how to defend this is contained in the Sticky thread for NEWBIES at the top of the main page. Don't hang about. Get a letter off PDQ stating that you intend to defend this so you will have enough time to prepare a proper defence.

Coupon-mad

pgl0897 wrote: »

N1 Claim Form has arrived from Northampton after several months of ignore&ignore.

Fully intend to take this the whole way (if it is worth doing so), even if I end up liable for the full amount. Would be really grateful for some proper advice on it & wording a defence from an experienced Forum member.

Many many thanks in advance.

You missed the advice then (read old 2012 threads?) Not great.

So now start researching this properly. Start reading post #5 of the NEWBIES FAQs sticky thread, all the links in post #5 ONLY (not the rest of the sticky as you missed that!!). Then when you've read them and read the Parking Prankster's Guide, you should be able to take the first steps to acknowledge & defend.

Then move on to reading back a good 20+ pages on here, clicking on every single thread where the title is about a PE court claim from Northampton. There are loads of outcomes to learn from - you need to learn what happens and how to get your case adjourned ('stayed') later on if you are lucky.

Or how to get a £60 offer to settle with PE, by complaining to the retail CEO.

Start reading for a few days then tell us what help/advice you then need.

pgl0897

Coupon-mad wrote: »

You missed the advice then (read old 2012 threads?) Not great.

So now start researching this properly. Start reading post #5 of the NEWBIES FAQs sticky thread, all the links in post #5 ONLY (not the rest of the sticky as you missed that!!). Then when you've read them and read the Parking Prankster's Guide, you should be able to take the first steps to acknowledge & defend.

Then move on to reading back a good 20+ pages on here, clicking on every single thread where the title is about a PE court claim from Northampton. There are loads of outcomes to learn from - you need to learn what happens and how to get your case adjourned ('stayed') later on if you are lucky.

Or how to get a £60 offer to settle with PE, by complaining to the retail CEO.

Start reading for a few days then tell us what help/advice you then need.

It's not that I missed the advice, but rather choose to ignore it.

Ignore&Ignore has still worked for me numerous times since 2012. My personal opinion (however ignorant/misinformed it may well be), is that I refuse to waste my time with POPLA given that it's a scheme that is run by and for the parking cowboys themselves in the first place. It's a lot like the govt setting up 'independent' enquiries to investigate themselves, no?

Have read a lot of post #5 from the newbies sticky already, and am (quite literally) simply not going to have the time to do the amount of reading/research you suggest with everything that is going on for me work-wise at the mo.

Will dwell on it tonight and contemplate coughing up as it might just be easier than going through the Court rigmarole when I haven't got the space to be as dedicated as I would need to be in terms of forming a defence etc. Might have to be 1-0 to the cowboys on this occasion.

Thank you very much for taking the time to reply with good advice; it is greatly appreciated.

Coupon-mad

You could pay PTAS £19.99 to write a strong defence for you - that is another option and a service they offer (this is not my company but it is run by a poster from this forum). 'Parking Ticket Appeals' finds them on Google and they are very, very used to ParkingEye cases (is yours PE?) = their bread & butter.

Or you could send the short defence that the Parking Prankster shows for emergency use. Buy some time and then complain & negotiate (if PE, to get the £60 offer).

Or you could go straight for a quick and angry email complaint to the CEO of the retailer to get that £60 offer (if PE), which normally arrives by letter within a week of a complaint (so all you would need to do about the claim is acknowledge it online - easy - as long as you didn't wait over a month without defending as well).

Why pay over £150? Can't understand the mentality of people who get Court papers because they were sleepwalking into it.

Oh, and if this is Civil Enforcement you would be stark raving mad to pay them as they never turn up and people just have to 'pass go' into the hearing and collect their £100 costs! No-one on any parking forum panics and folds and pays if it's them! Who is it?

IMHO you are wrong about POPLA - the BPA set it up but PPCs hate it - for us it is very winnable, easy to use and open. The IAS on the other hand...

pgl0897

Coupon-mad wrote: »

You could pay PTAS £19.99 to write a strong defence for you - that is another option and a service they offer (this is not my company but it is run by a poster from this forum). 'Parking Ticket Appeals' finds them on Google and they are very, very used to ParkingEye cases (is yours PE?) = their bread & butter.

Or you could send the short defence that the Parking Prankster shows for emergency use. Buy some time and then complain & negotiate (if PE, to get the £60 offer).

Or you could go straight for a quick and angry email complaint to the CEO of the retailer to get that £60 offer (if PE), which normally arrives by letter within a week of a complaint (so all you would need to do about the claim is acknowledge it online - easy - as long as you didn't wait over a month without defending as well).

Why pay over £150? Can't understand the mentality of people who get Court papers because they were sleepwalking into it.

Oh, and if this is Civil Enforcement you would be stark raving mad to pay them as they never turn up and people just have to 'pass go' into the hearing and collect their £100 costs! No-one on any parking forum panics and folds and pays if it's them! Who is it?

IMHO you are wrong about POPLA - the BPA set it up but PPCs hate it - for us it is very winnable, easy to use and open. The IAS on the other hand...

So I've taken the plunge and completed my AoS to defend the whole claim. Believe I now have 14 days to register a defence??

It does lend confidence to have people here and at Pepipoo who are willing to give good advice, and I truly appreciate it. Take the point about POPLA and may consider it in future if I have to.

This time round it is District Enforcement (not Civil Enforcement), who I'm advised are quite a nasty bunch. I am likely to do a variation on the Parking Pranksters generic defence due to personal time constraints, and will come back for some pointers when I've drafted something.

Can't do the angry rant to retail manager approach as it is not a retailer. It is the car park next to a building where a driver of my car occassionally attends for training, and a couple of years ago they started using District Enforcement to "manage" the car park, despite the fact it is rarely more than half empty. Have considered getting onto the building manager, but not prepared to make any sort of offer. For me it is a matter of principle - I will pay the whole whack if ordered to do so by the Courts, or nothing at all.