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  • kidmugsy
    kidmugsy Posts: 12,709 Forumite
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    I am being offerd an additional £11,948 if I transfer to another provider (which I am doing).

    Why? What are you giving up that is worth more than £11,948 to L&G?

    P.S The death benefits look pretty stingy by modern standards. Or am I out of touch on this?
    Free the dunston one next time too.
  • worried_jim
    worried_jim Posts: 11,631 Forumite
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    kidmugsy wrote: »
    Why? What are you giving up that is worth more than £11,948 to L&G?

    P.S The death benefits look pretty stingy by modern standards. Or am I out of touch on this?

    Old employer wants to wind the scheme up. Was offered £1,200 3 years ago but said no. Worth hanging out for.
  • Your_Hero
    Your_Hero Posts: 883 Forumite
    edited 11 October 2014 at 4:14PM
    So in the 90's I paid in myself £2784.15 (starting salary in 1991 £8.5k). Fund value is £31,614. I am being offerd an additional £11,948 if I transfer to another provider (which I am doing). Which will give a total fund value of £43,562.

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    This is a DB scheme. You can't compare this with the OP's stakeholder plan as it is a completely different ball game.

    Your contributions of approx £3,000 did not "grow" to £43k. It's just that your scheme is a good one and the cost of providing the equivalents benefits are high (hence a transfer value of £31k prior to enhancement).

    Also to note is that enhanced transfer values are usually offered so that the trustees of the scheme can offload liabilities of DB pensions (possibly to reduce the deficit of the scheme). Whether or not this is beneficial for you and your personal circumstances, would need a full TVAS report to identify and advice from an IFA.
    Stephen Covey once said that "when you teach once, you learn twice". That is the primary reason for my participation on the forums as an IFA.

    Although I strive to provide accurate information in my posts, there may be the odd time when I fail. Yes I know it's hard to believe but even Your Hero can make mistakes. Apologies in advance.
  • worried_jim
    worried_jim Posts: 11,631 Forumite
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    Your_Hero wrote: »
    This is a DB scheme. You can't compare this with the OP's stakeholder plan as it is a completely different ball game.

    Your contributions of approx £3,000 did not "grow" to £43k. It's just that your scheme is a good one and the cost of providing the equivalents benefits are high (hence a transfer value of £31k prior to enhancement).

    Also to note is that enhanced transfer values are usually offered so that the trustees of the scheme can offload liabilities of DB pensions (possibly to reduce the deficit of the scheme). Whether or not this is beneficial for you and your personal circumstances, would need a full TVAS report to identify and advice from an IFA.

    Absolutely. The point I am making is that it's good to invest in pensions.
    The screenshot is from the TVAS via my IFA.
  • Russe11
    Russe11 Posts: 1,198 Forumite
    Absolutely. The point I am making is that it's good to invest in pensions.
    The screenshot is from the TVAS via my IFA.

    You mean it was good for some, those that contributed to DB scheme.

    I would be surprised if the value of transfer is what its worth in the scheme.

    Paying 3k into a stakeholder is unlikely to produce a fund of that value over the next 20years.
  • worried_jim
    worried_jim Posts: 11,631 Forumite
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    Russe11 wrote: »
    You mean it was good for some, those that contributed to DB scheme.

    I would be surprised if the value of transfer is what its worth in the scheme.

    Paying 3k into a stakeholder is unlikely to produce a fund of that value over the next 20years.

    Leaving it in there would definitely be better than taking it out, who knows what the next twenty years will bring them (except their 76th birthday).
  • Russe11
    Russe11 Posts: 1,198 Forumite
    So why are you transferring it out?
  • worried_jim
    worried_jim Posts: 11,631 Forumite
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    Russe11 wrote: »
    So why are you transferring it out?

    I am transferring it to another pension scheme and being paid £11,948 to do so.
  • xylophone wrote: »



    hello, I was worried that I had no other provisions other than my state pension, I am a housewife and have basically not paid into any company pension pots... I didn't work when the kids were little, well I did, but just little part time jobs....
    so I saw a FA and at the time they were talking about stakeholder pensions, where I pay so much ( because of the late start I pay £102 a month since 2002...).
    my hubby has a good company pension....( I don't know why I have thrown that in!)...
    I know that because of my DOB I cant start drawing my state pension till I am 68! eek
  • I am transferring it to another pension scheme and being paid £11,948 to do so.

    hiya, just a quick question, I know your sceme is different to mine but are you still paying into yours?
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