Smart meter help!

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Sunblind_Duck wrote: »

Not my cup of tea, I'm afraid. They are not compulsory, by the way. Don't forget, the water companies boasted that metering would cut bills. I know a lot of people who have now had to purchase water butts in order to keep bills down. Telling customers "We are going to reduce you bills" equates to saying, "We are going to reduce our profits". I shouldn't think so. http://stopsmartmeters.org.uk/

Oh for gods sake, not another link to the ex Dr Elizabeth Evans little website.This nutjob actually believes that going anywhere near a router or a mobile or any wifi sets her heart racing and makes her ill.The poor lass claims to have "electro-hypersensitivity ".Shes an ex doctor of medicine, now non practicing which makes her well qualified to speak on physics . She practices the N.A.E.T, (Nambudripads Allergy Elimination Technique ) So I advise anyone who gets the heebie jeebies from their mobiles/wifi etc should get in contact so she can rid you of it.
The suppliers have made a mistake in making a big thing about saving the consumers money with the new meters when really it saves them the real money.I d bet that if they gave people a small discount , say £60 a year, nearly everyone would grab at one without false claims about wifi and suppliers tracking what they do and remotely cutting them off.
In my view we should be all accepting them because it cuts down all the hundreds of thousands of energy thieves who now approach the coming winter with a big smile because their houses will be as warm as toast..free !

System

sacsquacco wrote: »

The suppliers have made a mistake in making a big thing about saving the consumers money with the new meters when really it saves them the real money.I d bet that if they gave people a small discount , say £60 a year, nearly everyone would grab at one without false claims about wifi and suppliers tracking what they do and remotely cutting them off.
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In fairness to the suppliers, they are only putting out the propaganda that the Govt wants them to put out. The cost of the roll-out is increasing with every delay, and the projected savings come from the same stable as the economic benefit that will accrue from HS2.

http://www.iod.com/influencing/big-picture

Download the PDF 'Smart Meters - a dicey investment' and have a look at Table 2.

penrhyn

I have British gas smart meters, they are fine, the user software however leaves a lot to be desired.
The gas tarriff failed to register for around 9 months, readings stopped being registered for a couple of weeks recently. The new My Energy application thinks im using no electricity on the day display but does on the weekly readout.
Why anyone whos not anal about energy consumption would persevere with this stuff is a mystery.

Sterlingtimes

Ovo's Smart Gateway is now totally out of service. Ovo still hasn't arranged appointment to fit the external aerial. It has been a great disappointment. Smart Meters cannot deliver metered figures to Ovo.

duncansby

penrhyn wrote: »

I have Smart meters.

The answer to your question is, None at all.

Apart from the accurate bills.

I have to agree wholeheartedly with this - we've had a smart meter for a couple of years and it's made no difference to our energy consumption. At the end of the day, if it's cold you use more gas. If it's raining and you use the tumble drier you use more electricity. But we all knew this already. The only thing it's handy for is accurate bills and not having to have the meter read or submit readings

Blackbeard_of_Perranporth

I see no benefit in having a smart meter spying in my house. I am on Scottish Power and provide readings every three months, and then check I am on the cheapest tariff, which I am.

A smart meter cannot do this.

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Blackbeard_of_Perranporth wrote: »

I see no benefit in having a smart meter spying in my house. I am on Scottish Power and provide readings every three months, and then check I am on the cheapest tariff, which I am.

A smart meter cannot do this.

How is it "spying "? Why on earth would Scottish Power or any supplier have any interest in what time you put the kettle on or switch the heating on. I d be interested in knowing why you think a smart meter is a spy in your house.

Robin9

As we are required to have a meter in our properties I see no reason why it shouldn't be a smart meter - and there are two distinct benefits which do mean less effort for me - 1) accurate bills and 2) I don't have to read the meter.

How does a meter spy on me Blackbeard?

cayennepepper

I wouldn't call it spying, but I can see that by knowing what time of the day you consume more, they can target you better with their marketing (as per their small print)

System

The potential for 'spying' is there if the consumer unwittingly allows 3rd party access to the data:

The Department of Energy and Climate Change (DECC) granted Smart DCC Ltd a licence in September 2013 to establish and manage the data and communications network to connect smart meters to the business systems of energy suppliers, network operators and other authorised service users of the network.

Smart DCC Ltd is a wholly owned subsidiary of Capita plc.

The data and communications infrastructure will:

operate consistently for all consumers regardless of their energy supplier

provide smart metering data to network operators in support of smart grids

allow authorised third parties to provide services to consumers who have granted them permission to use their data. Consumers can benefit by receiving energy services and advice on how to reduce their energy usage.

The graphic attached to this info shows comparison sites such as USwitch as possible authorised 3rd parties.:(