why are all shares generally tanking? FTSE was 6800+ now 6500

missjames

PenguinJim wrote: »

Surely worrying about shares and worrying about people dying aren't mutually exclusive..?

Clif's Latest...Not With a Bang But A Whimper

Clif High's latest Webbot runs looking into our future are showing the worst possible scenarios for the ebola/disease freakout.

Truth or not the Ebola virus hysteria is a self-fulfilling destructive force globally.

Here's a summary of Clif's projections...

1) Global flights in the EU hugely impacted by November 2014 through 2018

2) Infected people left on planes to die in place.

3) Global shipping abruptly ends. Unable to unload people, cargo or human waste.

4) Cruise ships quarantined and passengers shot for trying to escape.

5) US Military stranded overseas.

6) Churches go belly up due to lack of attendance.

7) Schools/Colleges close as Ebola invades campuses.

8) Sporting events cancelled or not attended. Even televised games get cancelled due to lack of people willing to play or film the games

You can read it for yourself here:

http://www.halfpasthuman.com/

So Clif has been jumping up and down about the ramifications of just TALKING about Ebola for months...and now we are experiencing the beginning. Not the middle or end but just the very tip of the beginning!

A few weeks back he said there would be school closures...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/16/schools-close-ebola_n_5998674.html

Just how bad can it get?

According to the experts YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-16/researchers-expect-over-20-us-ebola-cases-weeks-you-dont-want-know-worst-case

"We have a worst-case scenario, and you don't even want to know," warns Alessandro Vespignani, a researcher creating simulations of infectious disease outbreaks, but there could be as many as two dozen people in the U.S. infected with Ebola by the end of the month. The projections only run through October because it's too difficult to model what will occur if the pace of the outbreak changes but, as Bloomberg reports, Vespignani warns if the outbreak becomes more widespread in other regions, it "would be like a bad science fiction movie."

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But what if it's all a fake false flag? What if these are all staged events?

Yes, I think a majority of them are...but so what?

Whoever is doing it is looking for specific results:

1) Fear in the eyes of the public...Ahhh! Don't get near someone sneezing on the bus! Or at the grocery store!! Or at school!! Or anywhere in public! Just turn to your government to protect you! BS!!

2) Blame for the coming financial meltdown. Obviously, the timing is perfect for the Bad Guys.

3) Or could it be that the Good Guys are preparing the people for the transition to a new way of life. If everybody is hunkered down for the global monetary crash then it may go a lot smoother!!

Take you pick but all have the same effect...PANIC and CHAOS.

In_For_A_Penny_2

missjames wrote: »

Sporting events cancelled or not attended. Even televised games get cancelled due to lack of people willing to play or film the games

Surely not?! Those past two weeks without football were bad enough.

Generali

ChopperST wrote: »

Thanks with download these for my trip to the States next week

You're welcome.

Reminiscences of a Stock Operator is a classic which I missed off. It's the first book that every trader I know was told to read when they started out. Amazing.
The Great Crash of 1929 by JK Galbraith is a brilliant history of the wall street crash.

ChopperST

If Nigeria can contain the virus then the developed world can. I hope the aid being sent to the African nations reaches the right places to improve the health care infrastructure so they have a chance of beating it too but only time will tell.

IveSeenTheLight

chewmylegoff wrote: »

You have obviously convinced yourself that BTL is much better than equity investments so there is little point arguing.

There's no arguing going on, not even a debate.
This is a discussion.

I see some have made good investments in shares, I personally not so good.
I see many reports talking about how people have lost out and get lower returns on pensions etc.

chewmylegoff wrote: »

The reality is that they are just different ways of investing with different pros and cons which means they are suitable for different people.

I understand, which is why I am involved in this discussion to try and understand a little more.

I've said I'm not the one in here to take share advice from and
still have not understood how a FTSE 100 index which is lower than 15 years ago points to profitability return on an investment.

Some pointed to dividends, which I have not seen, so is there a threshold to receiving dividends?

ChopperST

Generali wrote: »

You're welcome.

Reminiscences of a Stock Operator is a classic which I missed off. It's the first book that every trader I know was told to read when they started out. Amazing.
The Great Crash of 1929 by JK Galbraith is a brilliant history of the wall street crash.

Thanks.

The full version is available as a PDF download if anyone else is interested - http://www.nowandfutures.com/large/Reminiscences_of_a_Stock_Operator_Jesse_Livermore.pdf

Generali

ChopperST wrote: »

Thanks.

The full version is available as a PDF download if anyone else is interested - http://www.nowandfutures.com/large/Reminiscences_of_a_Stock_Operator_Jesse_Livermore.pdf

Yup, widely available. Multiply the prices by about 75 if you want modern figures.

As you will see :eek:

Supposedly it is basically true.

wotsthat

ChopperST wrote: »

Thanks.

The full version is available as a PDF download if anyone else is interested - http://www.nowandfutures.com/large/Reminiscences_of_a_Stock_Operator_Jesse_Livermore.pdf

You might like this blog...

http://simple-living-in-suffolk.co.uk/

I think it's written by a chap who posts on the pensions board. In the Monevator style.

N1AK

missjames wrote: »

A few weeks back he said there would be school closures...

He said about school closures: Yes, sporadically, and AFTER the schools are [emptied by parents]. which was wrong. Neither of the two schools closed in those circumstances, and he claimed we'd see sporadic closures by the 20th Oct and have thus far seen two due to one incident. Unless we get more closures before the 20th then he's wrong on both counts.

Fortunately not only is so much of that stuff batguano crazy, but he also put short timelines on it so unless we've got mass panic, abandoned churches and ships being seized by early next month then even more of them will be proven false.

Thrugelmir

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

I've said I'm not the one in here to take share advice from and
still have not understood how a FTSE 100 index which is lower than 15 years ago points to profitability return on an investment.

Some pointed to dividends, which I have not seen, so is there a threshold to receiving dividends?

Around 60% of the return from share investing comes from dividends and the reinvestment of. Totally different model to leveraging with debt with BTL.

Why wasn't BTL a fad until 1998? What changed in the following decade that wasn't previously? There's a couple of questions I would be interested to hear your views on.