Advice please : medication at school.

peachyprice

If it works those yogurt tubes could be ideal.

Savvy_Sue

I have to ask: are there other 6th form options available? Maybe a new start would be better.

rpc

tom9980 wrote: »

A child's bad behaviour even with a disability is still bad behaviour, it shouldn't be tolerated either way.

Mental issues can explain, but do not excuse bad behaviour. If children need to be segregated or otherwise dealt with while solutions are being found, then that is just a necessary step.

However, professionals should be capable of recognising when the causes of that bad behaviour have been dealt with. It can be a long hard road to find the correct treatment. Undermining that by some of the key professionals in her life refusing to cooperate should not be acceptable.

Teachers are meant to be competent professionals. Management of the educational side of children's illnesses is part of the job. Yes, it would be great if no child ever got sick. But that isn't reality.

For years teachers have suffered disruption and countless hours of teaching time lost due to bad behaviour which deserves punishment and consequences and frequently parents come up short in this regard and often make excuses for their child.

So it is acceptable for teachers to punish the genuine cases with observable improvements because some people try to cover up bad parenting.

What you are suggesting is akin to putting someone on detention because they are on crutches and refused to take part in PE. Others try to skip PE because they are lazy, so clearly everyone needs dealt with.

FBaby

Has the school actually explained what they are concerned about if they were to agree to her stepping out of the room for 2 minutes (doesn't require 5) every day at the same time?

I just find it odd that it would cause them such a problem unless they have reasons that you don't know. They've said that there is something they want to talk to you in a meeting rather than on the phone, so clearly there is something. I would think it might be worth finding out what that concern is before telling them about the Mental Health act.

1DayAAT

Good luck going forward and DO NOT tolerate this discriminatory nonsense from the ignorant adults at her school. The equality laws were brought in to protect from this kind of treatment - stigma and unfairness.
My teenage son has high functioning autism and after diagnosis went through a bad spell at school trying to raise awareness and being more or less accused of 'making it up' due to not seeming like he was Forest Gump or whatever stereotype they had in mind. We fought tooth and nail for his accomodations and life is now comfortable for him and many people have learned a thing or two. I hope your daughter has a similar outcome - what she does not need is nonsense like this exacerbating her anxieties.

*Robin*

moomoomama27 wrote: »

I'd never even thought if that! Il get her to try that later, see if it helps anyway!

Would be good if she can, we could always see if this would be a more suitable compromise, perhaps she would then even feel ok about doing it iin the classroom, I think the main angst for her us the gag reflex.

Because your DD is going to need lifelong meds for her BP, it's worth trying to make the experience of actually taking the pills as agreeable to her as possible.

Yoghurt is the best medium I've found - it's a shame more medics don't suggest it when handing over prescriptions, particularly for children.

moomoomama27 wrote: »

Thanks, much appreciated

You're welcome, hope it works (if it doesn't it would be the first failure I've heard of!).

peachyprice wrote:

If it works those yogurt tubes could be ideal.

I'd forgotten about those - showing m' age, lol - can one eat them with a spoon (easiest way to get yoghurt + pill into the mouth together)?

moomoomama27

FBaby wrote: »

Has the school actually explained what they are concerned about if they were to agree to her stepping out of the room for 2 minutes (doesn't require 5) every day at the same time?

I just find it odd that it would cause them such a problem unless they have reasons that you don't know. They've said that there is something they want to talk to you in a meeting rather than on the phone, so clearly there is something. I would think it might be worth finding out what that concern is before telling them about the Mental Health act.

They have told me it would be too disruptive to the lesson for her to keep leaving at the same time, as they couldn't say if it would be an appropriate time every day. I said my daughter was happy to time keep and she would be responsible for ensuring she went on time and would be discreet.

I would expect the meeting us because CAMHs and her councillor got involved today. She said her head of year wasn't there, so I would imagine the meeting needs him to be there?

moomoomama27

*Robin* wrote: »

Because your DD is going to need lifelong meds for her BP, it's worth trying to make the experience of actually taking the pills as agreeable to her as possible.

Yoghurt is the best medium I've found - it's a shame more medics don't suggest it when handing over prescriptions, particularly for children.



You're welcome, hope it works (if it doesn't it would be the first failure I've heard of!).

I'm so grateful for that suggestion. I've told DD and she said she thinks it's great, she's going to try it in a minute with her 7pm meds!! She's actually quite excited that there's a possibility she can come yo compromise with the school.

Personally I think it's two teachers with the issue that are just being awkward to prove some kind of point. If there's a value reason I'm more than happy to listen, but the fact us she needs the meds at 11am, and there's not a lot of compromise I can come up with, other than perhaps if the yoghurt works!!

FBaby

They have told me it would be too disruptive to the lesson for her to keep leaving at the same time, as they couldn't say if it would be an appropriate time every day

Could they be concerned that she could get up in a middle of an exam for instance? Then others would query why she can get out and maybe cheat etc...

Although I totally respect your concern over your daughter's health and the fact that being able to take her meds on time is essential, I do think you need to try to understand better why the school is making an issue of it. Surely they are not pathetic enough to refuse this demand just to annoy your daughter and you. Maybe their reasoning doesn't make sense, but maybe it is just because of misunderstanding?

moomoomama27

FBaby wrote: »

Could they be concerned that she could get up in a middle of an exam for instance? Then others would query why she can get out and maybe cheat etc...

Although I totally respect your concern over your daughter's health and the fact that being able to take her meds on time is essential, I do think you need to try to understand better why the school is making an issue of it. Surely they are not pathetic enough to refuse this demand just to annoy your daughter and you. Maybe their reasoning doesn't make sense, but maybe it is just because of misunderstanding?

I'd like to think it's just a misunderstanding, and there are genuine concerns which we can work through, and will still go in with an open mind, but this is a school that excluded a girl for self harming in the toilets because of her disruptive behaviour ( she had a mental breakdown over the sudden death of her mother), and one where an asthmatic was forced to run cross country because he just had a cough! Both incidents were dealt with properly, thankfully, but since it gained Academy status, and new staff, mainly senior leaders, it's gone very downhill.

I do wish she would move to the local sixth form college, it was my preference, and I tried to guide her out, but the pull of friendships, and boyfriend won her over, despite the reputation it's gaining, and the treatment she is recievng, although for the first time tonight she's saying perhaps it might come to moving if they carry on with all this!