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Tenancy Contract - possible to change it mid-tenancy?

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  • 45002
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    edited 29 September 2014 at 11:03PM
    Pheath20 wrote: »
    Artfull - it is just a single house converted into two separate flats, upstairs flat is where my mum lives and ground floor the tenant. Does this change anything? No, the tenant isn't related or involved with the family and believe it or not the tenancy contract hasn't been reviewed since it was signed in 1985!

    Hello Pheath20.

    Could I ask you to enter the house full postcode here

    https://ebusiness.voa.gov.uk/

    and just click Find.

    Does it show the tenants details at All and how much is the rent and so on ?

    Please don't post any person details...
    Advice given on Assured and Regulated Tenancy, Further advice should always be sought from a Solicitor....
  • bris
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    If it's divided into flats then it's 2 separate residencies, a lodger would stay in the same residence just renting a room.


    The tenant is protected by law and you cant change it.
  • Pheath20
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    edited 30 September 2014 at 1:20PM
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  • bris
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    The post code wont give tenant details, the courts would want to know if it's been classed as a separate residence for the last 35 years or not.


    Do they share a kitchen, living room etc or are they living totally separate lives with their own bills. This is what the courts will be looking for.
  • 45002
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    edited 30 September 2014 at 11:35AM
    Pheath20 wrote:
    thanks everyone for the advice, yes - will be seeking legal advice on this one as quite a complex area & need to be quite sure on the law, as you say a lot at stake.
    45002 - no details at all on the tenant after entering postcode.


    Not complex at All, you already posted the asnwer to your own questions on some of your previous threads on MSE and LLz forums .
    Pheath20 wrote:
    when the house was split into 2 flats back in the 60s
    Pheath20 wrote:
    The utility meters are separate
    Pheath20 wrote:
    the fact it was split into 2 could be a hindrance
    Pheath20 wrote:
    it's listed as 20 and 20A but the two council tax bandings are the same
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4799777
    Pheath20 wrote: »
    The property was converted by my grandparents in the 1960s into two flats. The house has one outer door and two inner doors. Mum lives in the upper flat and the ground floor flat has been occupied by tenants for many years

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4776142

    From what you have posted,The tenant has a regulated Tenancy , but I think you already knew this anyway !

    http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?64317-1977-tenancy-act-agreement-residential-landlordanother
    Advice given on Assured and Regulated Tenancy, Further advice should always be sought from a Solicitor....
  • Hopefully tenant or his legal adviser is viewing this thread & will be forewarned & forearmed.

    Cheers!
  • 45002
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    Pheath20 wrote: »
    thanks everyone for the advice, yes - will be seeking legal advice on this one as quite a complex area & need to be quite sure on the law, as you say a lot at stake.
    45002 - no details at all on the tenant after entering postcode.

    Just to point out, OP says the tenant details do not show here https://ebusiness.voa.gov.uk/

    It does mean there is Not registered rent, the on line records only go back to 2003 onwards, pre 2003 records would be stored a VOA offices in paper form...

    So there still could be a registered rent pre 2003.

    It still can be a Regulated tenancy even if there No registered rent...
    Advice given on Assured and Regulated Tenancy, Further advice should always be sought from a Solicitor....
  • caprikid1
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    "Hopefully tenant or his legal adviser is viewing this thread & will be forewarned & forearmed."

    Another Landlord Hater !!!.

    Seriously get a life, there are the vast majority of landlords out there providing good quality accomomodation at the Market rate or below. Landlords don't set the price markets do.

    This Tenant has enjoyed the accomodation for close on 30 years, clearly a happy tenant. Sadly this type of protection no longer exists to offer the exceptional protection it provides.
  • theartfullodger
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    edited 30 September 2014 at 11:24AM
    caprikid1 wrote: »
    "Hopefully tenant or his legal adviser is viewing this thread & will be forewarned & forearmed."

    Another Landlord Hater !!!.... etc etc..

    Thank you for your kind thoughts:

    I am a landlord: IMHO it's who/what is right that matters, not what people do for a job, what they invest in, where they come from, what colour they are etc etc etc...

    Just because I happen to have some Vodafone shares doesn't mean I must always support & help Vodadog.. (my mobile is on Tesco..), any more than that I should always support & help landlords against all others:

    re
    Sadly this type of protection no longer exists to offer the exceptional protection it provides
    Oh yes they do, there are surprising number of rent act tenancies still out there.. Not to mention Council & HA secure tenancies.

    Cheers!
  • booksurr
    booksurr Posts: 3,700 Forumite
    caprikid1 wrote: »
    Another Landlord Hater !!!.
    oh dear another skim reading poster

    theartfullodger is actually a "rather" successful LL owning properties in Scotland and gives a lot of accurate, quality, advice on this and other LL forums

    he also points out the bleeding obvious when necessary
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