Wall of neighbour's extension - what can we do to it?

societys_child

ds1980

Its not theirs it's shared!

. . . and you know this because?
Do wish you'd stop making things up!


TrixA

I'm surprised they managed to get planning permission for it.

The footings for that wall will (or should) extend another 6" and that's why extensions were always built 6" in from the boundary line. This also allowed space for gutters etc to be attached (if required) without encroaching onto adjoining land.

It's quite possible that what's happened here is, the owners (or previous owners) of the property you're intending to buy have moved the original boundary when the new fence was erected (looks like the fence was put up after the wall was built as it appears to be attached to it?)

It could be that the fence should run along side (6" away from) the "ugly wall" and it could be you've actually gained some land since it was built. Just a thought.

I think a chat with your intended new neighbour might be a good idea.

ds1980

It's in the picture.The fence is the clue.

Cottage_Economy

JustinR1979 wrote: »

My side was already painted, what am I supposed to do....

Check with him first.

This is how neighbours fall out and end up in disputes with each other. I'm not saying you have to apply for permission in triplicate three weeks in advance, but just give a quick head's up as a courtesy.

JustinR1979

And if they say no?
He has a neighbour with a fence that looks terrible, and brings down the appearance of the area, and I have to look at it every day?

Mojisola

JustinR1979 wrote: »

And if they say no?
He has a neighbour with a fence that looks terrible, and brings down the appearance of the area, and I have to look at it every day?

No, you can put up your own fence in front of it; you can put up some free-standing trellis and grow plants up it; you can grow something tall in pots and put those in front of the fence.

JustinR1979

Or paint the fence that is already there and has been painted before....
I can't believe there are people with such care free lives that can find time to make this into an issue, it's just absurd.
Thousands die of hunger every day, but fcuk me you've painted a neighbours fence they can't see without asking permission.

Davesnave

JustinR1979 wrote: »

I can't believe there are people with such care free lives that can find time to make this into an issue, it's just absurd.

:rotfl:How many times have you posted on this thread?

cyclonebri1

ds1980 wrote: »

I have lost the will to live on this thread.

Its not theirs it's shared! If it is shared I can do whatever I like as there are NO laws to stop me otherwise. If i don't give notice it is unenforceable by law once ive done it anyway.

If anyone has any real knowledge of the law and can offer a court case or example to prove otherwise then I'm happy to be proven wrong but im pretty sure you wont find one.

Erecting a trellis into a "party" wall is absolutely fine and is not covered under any law or PW agreement. The same as if you want to drill into a party wall inside your home. Whats the difference? Its only if you are making major alterations would PW shenanigans become may become an issue.

take a look at some stories here:

http://www.name-n-shame.co.uk/party_walls.html

If you want to build off it, deconstruct it, add something "substantial" (not trellis) that that needs structural calculations etc then you would need agreement and possibly PW surveyor but seriously understand PW act first before saying you cant touch a party boundary.

As ive said the PW agreement is a a nonsense anyway as they are unenforceable and a ruse for PW surveyors and RICS to make money and this is a moneysaving website ;-)

No, you've just lost the plot.

The 1st post states the neighbour has built up to the boundary, not over it. It is their wall totally, it is not a shared wall, the OP cannot paint it or do anything else.

Now if both parties had wanted to build an extension at the same time, a single cavity wall could have been constructed to straddle the boundary, but that's the case here.

ds1980

Ha. Werent you the same person who said that when i wanted to install my own wood burner bri but still not dead yet ;-)

Op said its their fence in deeds therefore the fence is the boundary line. Op said they'd built to the boundary line which you can see on pic. If you've built to the boundary line then it's shared. If you build before the line then its yours not that difficult to understand is it? This is a terrace not downton abbey so its pretty obvious the wall is shared and that next door didnt leave 6 inches on their side otherwise the wall would be back from the fence line.

If you understood these things you'd see the pebbledash side of next door between the french doors which is the boundary line ie a shared wall or can op not touch that either? :rotfl::rotfl:

societys_child

Op said its their fence in deeds therefore the fence is the boundary line.

Deeds don't show fences, they show boundarys. However working out where the boundary lies (to the inch) is difficult unless there is something to indicate exactly where it should be.

Op said they'd built to the boundary line

Neither you nor the op know exactly where the actual legal boundary is.
If the wall were to be on the boundary line, then the builder would have had to dig up the garden of the property the op is intending to buy to lay the foundations! Which would have been trespass.

It still comes down to the fact that even if it is on the boundary (which is unlikely - see previous para) you still have no right to attach anything to it, it's not a party wall.