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mhoc wrote: »

Just had an email from Mr sainsbobs

"From 2 October, your Brand Match coupon will just compare our prices and deals on brands with Asda. "

no longer comparing with Tesco - I wonder why

Everyone else's system manages to compare nicely with multiple stores

also
"Many people see Asda as the benchmark on price - but they are surprised how often their comparable branded shop was cheaper at Sainsbury's. We believe that comparing simply and directly to Asda makes Brand Match straightforward and easy to understand"

I am more surprised if sainsburys is ever cheaper than sada.
so are they about to start a price war with Asda - if so they will never win.

Perhaps because T often goes far cheaper than A does? For example when T has half price offers that are sub-£1 as opposed to Mr A's expensive r'back round pound offers?

:(Yet again, another change that makes things worse from my point of view - but, even worse, I wish they would just be honest:( - why do normal people have to be so deceptive, deceitful and dishonest all the time?!?:mad: - sorry, folks, just speaking out of turn again:o - businesses often seem to present things that are to our disadvantage as being more "straightforward" and "easy". :(I want the complex version instead.

It's not straightforward at all, nor is it "easy" (except for them). Well, actually, it is straightforward - if T's are cheaper, buy at T and not S. Or, perhaps, send us to Mr A to T's cheaper stuff.

I would not be surprised that a comparable branded shop was 'cheaper at Sains'. Especially not when the non-comparable (under Sains BM) non-branded stuff was so nearly consistently expensive than the own brand products available elsewhere, especially A.

They are, IMO, using people's perception - ah, there we are again, pricing "perception" as opposed to reality (note the space, not frowning at reality but frowning at perception being used as opposed to reality, or 'one view of reality') - that A is seen as the benchmark, perhaps many more people in the country (sometimes or often wrongly) see A as being cheaper than other major supermarkets. The price guarantees actually tend to cause prices to go up (I did find an article about this many months ago, can't find it again at the moment) as, if everywhere is offering a price promise, then why would there be any incentive to be cheapest? Competitors would simply match that price anyway, sending customers to the competitor (that's of course the theory, which is in fact probably the opposite of what happens - as virtually all people are not rational behaving at all, contrary to what some versions of economic theory suggests, it's only me that compares every price that is - and why would any normal person, given the time it takes to do that?). We've seen this on fuel prices in the last few weeks, if one breaks rank and increases a price, the others follow suit.

So, Mr S can use people's perception that A is generally a cheaper supermarket and only compare with A. Not necessary to compare with T as people will generally be surprised their branded shop was cheaper anyway and because T will be believed (again wrongly probably) to be more expensive or about the same price anyway. S must have had quite a lot more BMs being triggered by T being cheaper? I wouldn't be surprised if the true position (about whether T is cheaper) was the opposite of what people generally think. Of course people shopping in S would tend to pick up - especially as they are in prominent places, on aisle ends etc. - items that are on half price or on offer in S that will tend to be more expensive in A, on A's online prices, and therefore will make their basket cheaper than A. It is no surprise to me. However, for the general public, that does not think like I do, and does not see any deeper meaning or explanation behind - well behind very much at all actually - these generally uninformed and completely misguided people (i.e. the vast majority of the population, from which I exclude the Elite) would undoubtedly be "surprised".

By comparing only against A, stating the obvious here it allows S to avoid giving any refund vouchers at all in cases where T is now cheaper on the branded part of the shop.

Basically an unwelcome thing in every way from my perspective (though I suppose scaling down anything that has ever given you something before always is to your detriment - e.g. the solution to closing libraries, never build a library ever in the first place, then there could never have been any complaints about the library ever closing - their fault they built one back in Victorian times!:rotfl:). And this won't be causing me to rush out before 2 October and spend money at Sains that I wasn't going to spend. Especially as they need far more months of no-shop from me to cause them to send me any decent offers, so I'm not shopping there at the moment and much of their Basics items are overpriced IMO anyway, just makes them a more expensive store.

Everything that a business does is with the aim of making the business profit. There is obviously a reason from that point of view as to why S would do this, and the removal of comparisons to T is obviously a good thing for them from that perspective. It enables S to make more money. As making money is inevitably done by getting more money from ourselves, the general public, it therefore runs completely counter to our aim of money-saving. Business aims of making profit and ours of saving money are in complete opposition and completely counter to each other. (Discuss:rotfl:.) We should therefore do the complete opposite of whatever is their aim or whatever they may wish us to do.

Actually Sains is not deceptive, deceitful or dishonest at all - that was just my mad flip there a bit - as they do say that "We believe" that comparing to A is straightforward and easy, and I've no doubt that they do believe that. Not sure I am affected by Sains' beliefs though:rotfl:. (:doh:Yet another occasion of me 'picking out individual particular words' - my tendency towards being literal again.) I note the addition of the wording "simply and directly", in order perhaps to try to suggest this is a good thing for us again. I am taken in by none of this added hyperbole. Delete those words and it is effectively the same, but doesn't have that added promotional element that the marketing email (and that's what it is) does, in order to try to persuade us (unsuccessfully and in fact counter-productively with me) that this change is to our benefit. After all everyone wants it to be simple and straightfoward don't we? - Frown!

Anyway, I'd best get on as got lots of other things to do today. Another long post. Nice to know you.

Tinyshoes

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It's saying £50 for free delivery I have combined clothes and wine before to pay one delivery charge not sure if it will work for free delivery.

locarr

Call_of_Trouty wrote: »

OMG !!! :eek:

How anyone could do this to another human being is beyond comprehension .


































Everyone knows you have to have it on the day of release

Sounds like those apple fans that have to have the latest product as soon as it's out....how sad!!:p

locarr

sounds very convenient!;) 60 secs at 700w!!

tweets

LilacLillie wrote: »

I wasn't looking forward to coming home after being away for the summer but have had a great morning so far.
I decided to not eat snacks, but eat anything else I wanted.
Just weighed myself and have lost an amazing 1st 3lbs without trying! I'm soooooo shocked!!!!!
Also had loads of mail, loads of MOC's and Tesco (good) points and conditional spends. Had the Co-Op £5 one, JL 2 more cake & coffees, free sample of Nivea, 2 GR.
Can't wait to get back to 'Glitchy shopping'. My shop buddy has texted me to say he's been 'Bereft' without me LOL!
I'm also relaxed and a lovely shade of golden brown.

Hope it lasts at least another day. I've come home to a family drama, son's ex has upped and taken DG1 7yrs, 150miles away with no notice or warning, meaning where we normally have him every weekend since he was born, we've no idea when we will see him next :mad:
Today is today and I'm enjoying it.....................
LL

Well done LilacLillie :T:T:T

nerfdad

locarr wrote: »

Sounds like those apple fans that have to have the latest product as soon as it's out....how sad!!:p

Just cool parents who give the kids the game straight away as it's out off date in 366 days time:p:p

Savvybuyer

Anon wrote: »

Making it simpler as A are seen as the benchmark for price, allegedly:
http://mobi.igd.com/NewsArticle.aspx?nid=13033

Anon

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:


(I like your scepticism:T.)

EDIT: Having now read the information at the link, I don't think people more generally would think that T would be cheaper. People generally don't think like that, nor do they think of much at all IMO:rotfl:. I think they are more concerned with shops being convenient to them, about all shops increasing prices with perception of inflation and cost of living and might actually believe that Sains are matching A's prices (or anywhere's prices) on the shelf, when in fact they do not actually have to, or need to, do this. People generally will think, immediately, of what they are going to have for dinner in an hour or so or which celebrity is on TV or which programme they are wanting to watch, or the mates they are meeting down the pub tonight. They won't generally be concerned at all - let alone even think about - supermarket price guarantees or even be bothered to read any terms and conditions or any other such 'boring' factual stuff, including the facts of various prices, and the differences between them, in different competing stores.

bubbs

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bubbs

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