Fitting new oven

FreddieFrugal

Hello! Hate the oven that came with our house. Weak, can't hold temperature, too small inside and poorly thought out space means some of our larger baking trays don't fit and roast dinners take about double the length of time they used to take in our last home.

Anyway, have moved current oven in the past and under the work top it and the hob are connected with standard plugs to standard sockets. This socket is then connected to a red isolator switch on the wall, which is in turn connected to its own seperate fuse in mains box called 'cooker'.

However the ovens I've looked at online don't come with plugs, think they're meant to be wired in to a dedicated power outlet?

Is turning the current set up into something that could accept a new oven an expensive job? Is it DIY capable?

Also is it possible to still have the hob working afterwards?

Thanks for any info/advice

jcb208

Appliance 3KW and below can be wired to 13 amp plug.Is your current hob electric as this should NOT be wired in with a 13 amp plug as hobs always have a much higher rating.
As long as both appliances are connected to a 45 amp circuit they can be wired to a single 45amp cooker connection unit

cyclonebri1

That oven and hob should not be connected via a 13amp socket, it has to be hard wired at the load it will be creating, 45 amp not 13

FreddieFrugal

jcb208 wrote: »

Appliance 3KW and below can be wired to 13 amp plug.Is your current hob electric as this should NOT be wired in with a 13 amp plug as hobs always have a much higher rating.
As long as both appliances are connected to a 45 amp circuit they can be wired to a single 45amp cooker connection unit

The oven im looking at is rated below 3KW but says it comes without a plug, the hob is gas.

dj1471

IanRi wrote: »

The oven im looking at is rated below 3KW but says it comes without a plug, the hob is gas.

If it's rated below 3kW then you can put a 3-pin plug on it with a 13A fuse. You can buy a plug and fuse for a few quid in any DIY store, ensure whoever puts it on knows what they're doing...

It is however getting harder to find ovens rated less than 3kW, so it might be worth getting an electrician to install a dedicated 16A circuit. This will require a new cable running from your consumer unit, the distance/practicality will determine the cost. Won't cost you anything to get a few quotes so probably worth looking into.

Quiet_Spark

dj1471 wrote: »

...so it might be worth getting an electrician to install a dedicated 16A circuit. This will require a new cable running from your consumer unit, the distance/practicality will determine the cost. Won't cost you anything to get a few quotes so probably worth looking into.

The OP already has a dedicated cooker supply, all they would need to do is get the relevant socket replaced with a cooker outlet and they are good to go.

peachyprice

When some of the ovens you are looking at say they don't come with a plug/lead, they mean that you have to fit the plug/lead yourself (it's very easy, same as wiring a plug really), not necessarily that they can't be connected with a plug.

If you look on 365electrical.com most of the ovens say whether they're plug in or hardwired.

http://www.365electrical.com/electric-ovens-sort-price-order-asc-show-12A.html?types=pyrolitic-ovens,double-built-in-electric-ovens,double-built-under-electric-ovens,single-built-in-electric-ovens

They might have the oven you're looking at on there.

cyclonebri1

Must be a small single oven then.
Just view the makers total load and take it from there.

peachyprice

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Must be a small single oven then.
Just view the makers total load and take it from there.

There are dozens of ovens that are plug in. My current one is, the one before was, the one coming tomorrow is. The one coming tomorrow 2.1kw, it's 65 litres, so not a small oven.

new_owner

dj1471 wrote: »

If it's rated below 3kW then you can put a 3-pin plug on it with a 13A fuse. You can buy a plug and fuse for a few quid in any DIY store, ensure whoever puts it on knows what they're doing...

It is however getting harder to find ovens rated less than 3kW, so it might be worth getting an electrician to install a dedicated 16A circuit. This will require a new cable running from your consumer unit, the distance/practicality will determine the cost. Won't cost you anything to get a few quotes so probably worth looking into.

Why? Just downgrade the fuse from32/45A to 16A. The existing cable would not be an issue. 5min Job.

FreddieFrugal

IanRi wrote: »

The oven im looking at is rated below 3KW but says it comes without a plug, the hob is gas.

To clarify, the oven is rated at below 3KW but is stated as needing to be hard wired. It's a Bosch and apparently all/most Bosch ovens need to be hard-wired because they are rated at 16amps. Specifically says that it's not suitable for a 13amp plug.

Can you get a special socket to replace a standard socket which includes one normal plug and one oven connection point.

So I can have the gas hob plugged in to standard socket as well as the oven connected.

This would be below the worktop behind the oven.

We already have a red switch on the wall above worktop which controls power supply to the socket behind oven. This then also has its own fuse in the fuse box. So is it just a case of changing the socket?