Mum's dog bit my LO

Waldemar

There seems to be a lot of people on here ready to condemn a dog to death when there is not much background to go on. I have been bitten by dogs many time's and not one of them has been put down and nor would I call for any of these particular dogs to be. I have had to unfortunately re home one dog as he did not adjust to our son when he started crawling.

It just seems to me that a lot of people go into some sort of media inspired fear trance and call for death a la Daily Mail. Yes there are times when there is no alternative however in most cases it is the adult humans that are at fault. How about appropriate control, discipline, love,training, diet, exercise unfortunately lacking in too many cases and seems to be lacking in this case. I have read in posts that the dog is not walked! that it is locked away, is any effort made to make it feel comfortable in it's contained environment. How about supervised interaction with children using rewards and children on their best behavior. From what I can see this dog does not strike me as some vicious killer and is most probably biting out of fear, no puncture wound ie bite inhibition only one bite each time I think. This strikes me as a dog that is worth working with to improve it's confidence sounds like the humans involved could also do with some training on how to look after dogs.

I am fully aware that many people will probably disagree with my thoughts, however frankly my dear I dont give a ....

jaylee3

Waldemar wrote: »

There seems to be a lot of people on here ready to condemn a dog to death when there is not much background to go on. I have been bitten by dogs many time's and not one of them has been put down and nor would I call for any of these particular dogs to be. I have had to unfortunately re home one dog as he did not adjust to our son when he started crawling.

It just seems to me that a lot of people go into some sort of media inspired fear trance and call for death a la Daily Mail. Yes there are times when there is no alternative however in most cases it is the adult humans that are at fault. How about appropriate control, discipline, love,training, diet, exercise unfortunately lacking in too many cases and seems to be lacking in this case. I have read in posts that the dog is not walked! that it is locked away, is any effort made to make it feel comfortable in it's contained environment. How about supervised interaction with children using rewards and children on their best behavior. From what I can see this dog does not strike me as some vicious killer and is most probably biting out of fear, no puncture wound ie bite inhibition only one bite each time I think. This strikes me as a dog that is worth working with to improve it's confidence sounds like the humans involved could also do with some training on how to look after dogs.

I am fully aware that many people will probably disagree with my thoughts, however frankly my dear I dont give a ....

Part of me agrees with this. Dogs should never be left alone with a small child, but why does the dog ALWAYS get the blame?!

I remember one tale from a few years ago, about a rottweiller who snapped at a small kiddie and bit his arm. He was put down, as he was obviously a 'vicious monster.'

They did a post mortem on the dog, and he had a plastic pencil sharpener shoved inside his ear.

Sad.

But true.

Poor dog.

seven-day-weekend

Waldemar wrote: »

There seems to be a lot of people on here ready to condemn a dog to death when there is not much background to go on. I have been bitten by dogs many time's and not one of them has been put down and nor would I call for any of these particular dogs to be. I have had to unfortunately re home one dog as he did not adjust to our son when he started crawling.

It just seems to me that a lot of people go into some sort of media inspired fear trance and call for death a la Daily Mail. Yes there are times when there is no alternative however in most cases it is the adult humans that are at fault. How about appropriate control, discipline, love,training, diet, exercise unfortunately lacking in too many cases and seems to be lacking in this case. I have read in posts that the dog is not walked! that it is locked away, is any effort made to make it feel comfortable in it's contained environment. How about supervised interaction with children using rewards and children on their best behavior. From what I can see this dog does not strike me as some vicious killer and is most probably biting out of fear, no puncture wound ie bite inhibition only one bite each time I think. This strikes me as a dog that is worth working with to improve it's confidence sounds like the humans involved could also do with some training on how to look after dogs.

I am fully aware that many people will probably disagree with my thoughts, however frankly my dear I dont give a ....

And I don't give a damn about the psychology. It's bitten children three times and therefore should be given no more chances around children.

I'm not saying have the dog put down, just keep it well away from children at all times.

honeypop

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

I actually find that quite terrifying....imagine looking in your rear view mirror and seeing some physco sitting on the back seat! Sends shivers through me....

Off topic as nothing to do with the dogs, but this actually happened near me recently!!http://www.tringtoday.co.uk/news/more-news/woman-left-frightened-after-driving-for-nearly-a-mile-with-strange-man-in-back-of-her-car-1-6298803

splishsplash

honeypop wrote: »

Off topic as nothing to do with the dogs, but this actually happened near me recently!!http://www.tringtoday.co.uk/news/more-news/woman-left-frightened-after-driving-for-nearly-a-mile-with-strange-man-in-back-of-her-car-1-6298803

Is there actually a woman in the WORLD who gets in her car without checking the back seats first?? I know I always do, for precisely this reason :rotfl:

Waldemar

Hi Seven Day Weekend ( maybe one day for me I hope )

I am glad that you are not one calling for the dog to be put down and completely understand your sentiments regarding the dog never being around children.

This saying kind of says it all “Once bitten, twice shy, thrice shame on me!” and this goes for both sides of the debate.

I do like to understand the psychology, it is not natural for a dog to want to do us harm. There must be a reason for it and with this understanding there is possibly an answer to a harmonious environment for all. I say possibly as I do not know enough background but from what I have read almost certainly sounds like fear snapping which with owners / responsible adult willing to put the work in is usually quite straightforward to work out. Unfortunately many are not prepared to put the work in.

Here is a rather zen like quote " With knowledge, comes understanding and with understanding comes peace"

MrsAtobe

^^^^^^^ This

My current dog does not like small humans under a certain height, but absolutely adores taller humans. So, what does he do when approached by a smaller human, does he growl and air bite? No, the great big wuss that he is, he hides behind me. The only time a small human ran up to him and flung her arms around his neck, saying 'pretty doggie' did he bite her? (her mum was more worried than her dog and mine wouldn't get on, so wasn't watching her LO) no, he just backed away from her, dumping her on her bum!!

I will now get between him and any small human, if they ask to stroke him, I say if he will allow it, but if he moves away from you, that means he doesn't want to be stroked. I am no expert in dog body language, but I am learning when this one isn't comfortable.

seven-day-weekend

I am sure the dog can be trained but if I was the OP I would not want my child to be the one used in the training and therefore if my child was visiting I would want the dog locked away and muzzled.

If its owner couldn't/didn't want to do this, then she obviously cares more about the dog than the child and therefore would not mind if the child did not visit and if that meant the parent not coming either, then sobeit.

securityguy

This is a real non-thread, isn't it?

Grandmother has dog that is a repeat-offender child-biter.

Grandmother won't/can't/hasn't done anything effective about it.

Mother (OP) has a child which they feel is at risk.

So the grandmother doesn't get visited by the OP. If the result of that is that she can't cope with her illness, that's her problem, with an obvious solution. If other siblings think that's unreasonable, they can visit instead. It's as simple as that. Either the grandmother deals with her dog and is visited by her daughter, or she doesn't and isn't.

pickledonionspaceraider

splishsplash wrote: »

Is there actually a woman in the WORLD who gets in her car without checking the back seats first?? I know I always do, for precisely this reason :rotfl:

OH MY GOD, i always do this. I wish i hadnt read that story now eeekkkkkkkkk:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: