Daughters work experience

fabforty

densol wrote: »

To be paid to work under 16 a child needs a child permit to work - agreed by the school and issued by the council Surprised me too ( the only exception is work placements via the school )

Maybe this answers the problem

Ok. So while I am not advocating a return to the days of 'sending children up chimneys', the idea of having to get permission from your child's school before allowing them to get a Saturday job or paper round (especially at the age of 15), seems extreme.

densol_2

fabforty wrote: »

Ok. So while I am not advocating a return to the days of 'sending children up chimneys', the idea of having to get permission from your child's school before allowing them to get a Saturday job or paper round (especially at the age of 15), seems extreme.

Extreme but it's the law !!! I found this out as I wanted to employ my 15 yo to design my website and deliver leaflets. If anyone knows a way round it pray tell as its a complete pain in the a*se ! Lol

Spendless

Rules on school children working

https://www.gov.uk/child-employment/restrictions-on-child-employment

There are several restrictions on when and where children are allowed to work.

Children are not allowed to work:

without an employment permit issued by the education department of the local council, if this is required by local bylaws

It sounds like you're in an area where the requirement is a local bylaw densol.

To the OP- How do you know your dd isn't going to be paid? Have they specifically said this or just not mentioned it?

milliemonster

Hi and thanks everyone for your replies, just to clarify, I haven't forbid her to do it, I have asked her to clarify if she is going to be paid for her time and she tells me she's not, which is why I have concerns, I do accept that extra work experience is good for her but she is a very naive young lady and is easily taken advantage of, thank you to those of you who have commented on how wonderful it is to see a 15 year old want to work, she has always been the type of girl who would do anything for anyone to help them out.

I am trying to tackle this by trying to explain why I have the feelings I do about her not being paid. During the 2 weeks experience she has stayed behind each day beyond the hours negotiated with school to help them out already so I guess I'm just concerned how much extra they can expect of her for free.

I may actually give the school a ring once I've spoken to the shop owner about it to see what their thoughts are. I wholeheartedly do want to encourage her to make her own decisions, just sometimes she can rush headlong in to things without thinking them through.

tyllwyd

About the insurance side of things - I thought that nowadays school children on work experience had to be covered by the employer's insurance cover, not the schools, so that is probably OK.


If it is just one day, personally I would say yes, for the sake of leaving the shop on a good relationship and because she is gaining work experience.

LisaLou1982

Based on reading the posts above, why not call the place shes working at and ask them yourself how much they are planning on paying her for working the day?

You'll easily get your answer then!

Person_one

I completely understand why you're not happy, they don't want her to do an extra day because they just love her company so much! They've realised she's useful and willing and they're taking advantage of that.

However, you can't just have a random person working for your business, for no money and not as part of an official, approved work experience type programme. Friday will be the last day she's covered by insurance etc. and the school won't have any responsibility towards her on the Saturday.

If they want to give her a Saturday job, I'd expect them to do it properly, following the employment laws relating to 15 year olds and rewarding her for her time and effort, which has value!

Mankysteve

FBaby wrote: »

I agree with you, but to actually forbid her to do so? Ultimately, isn't her choice to work for no money? She is right in that it will be additional experience, so surely still a positive thing?

Not as 15 year old she doesn't. I wouldn't she not insured, I take were talking about a proper shop not a charity shop in which case tough luck there out to make profit they should employ proper staff.

Air_Cooled_75

A bit different but I actually ended up with 4 year's worth of summer work off the back of my work experience, and also a 'temp' job that lasted 5 years a few years later (and the pay was very good). You never know what might come of it.

pinkshoes

Who care if she is paid or not??? It is great experience for her, and her positive and keen attitude may land her a weekend/summer job once she turns 16!