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Tenancy contract help

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  • RAS
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    So the options are:

    1. She stays and you try to be nice to each other and she pays rent.
    2. She leaves and you get someone else to replace her as a lodger, even if that means turning the living room into a bedroom.
    3. She leaves and you pay the whole rent.
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  • Pixie5740
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    edited 18 September 2014 at 1:44PM
    You are liable for the full whack anyway. If she moves out then I don't see why she would continue to pay rent for the place.

    If she is classified as a lodger then just give her reasonable notice to move out (but specify how long that notice period is i.e. 2 weeks). Realistically could she afford to rent the place and pay all the bills on her own? Suggest that she goes to speak with the university's housing people, they might be able to find her a place in halls or something.

    If she refuses to go then you could get the police involved. Hopefully it won't come to that though.
  • Pixie5740
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    RAS wrote: »
    So the options are:

    1. She stays and you try to be nice to each other and she pays rent.
    2. She leaves and you get someone else to replace her as a lodger, even if that means turning the living room into a bedroom.
    3. She leaves and you pay the whole rent.

    4. Agree an early surrender with the LL and you both move out the flat and on with your lives.
  • RAS
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    Thanks

    Forgot that one.
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  • G_M
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    edited 18 September 2014 at 6:46PM
    greyville wrote: »
    I could, yes - but what if she point blank refused and what if she stops paying rent to me, leaving me liable for the full whack?
    Lodgers have little protection. You only have to give 'reasonable notice'. A week? Two?

    After that, you wait till she's at the shops and change the locks.

    Now, that is pretty extreme and I'm sure you are not that vindictive/nasty, but legally you could do it.

    I think this thread has shown you all your options: now you just have to

    * make some decisions and
    * act on them
  • A further update on this.

    I've managed to establish
    - it is a joint tenancy so both of us are liable for rent
    - there is no break clause

    I've moved out (I know it contradicts the good advice given earlier but I do trust my ex girlfriend to keep paying rent and to move out on time).

    My strategy now is to ask the landlord if he will surrender the contract and go from there.

    If he won't then I want to persuade my ex girlfriend to reassign my part of the contract to someone else.

    Does anyone have any advice?
  • Pixie5740
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    Cross your fingers and hope the LL goes for the early surrender of the tenancy.

    It's not just your ex-girlfriend who would need to agree with reassigning the tenancy agreement with someone else but the LL too. The LL would want to carry out checks on whoever was being put forward.

    If you're working and your ex is at university, does that mean that you were the main breadwinner? Can she really afford to live here?
  • Pixie5740 wrote: »
    Cross your fingers and hope the LL goes for the early surrender of the tenancy.

    It's not just your ex-girlfriend who would need to agree with reassigning the tenancy agreement with someone else but the LL too. The LL would want to carry out checks on whoever was being put forward.

    If you're working and your ex is at university, does that mean that you were the main breadwinner? Can she really afford to live here?

    Yes, I see your point about the LL needing to reference any new person.

    On your second question - yes. Her parents pay her side of the rent and, for the moments at least, I'm paying the other half.

    Obviously, I'm hoping that I can stop paying my half ASAP.
  • G_M
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    edited 22 September 2014 at 1:43PM
    greyville wrote: »
    Yes, I see your point about the LL needing to reference any new person.

    On your second question - yes. Her parents pay her side of the rent and, for the moments at least, I'm paying the other half.

    Obviously, I'm hoping that I can stop paying my half ASAP.
    I look forward with interest to your post in 4 weeks time:

    "I moved out of a property I was renting jointly with my ex 4 weeks ago. My ex promised to get the tenancy reassigned to herself and someone else.

    Unfortunately she has not found anyone acceptable to the landlord. What can I do? Am I still legally liable for the rent?"

    Followed shortly after by:

    " My ex could not afford the rent and has moved out leaving the property empty, but without giving notice. I don't know where she has gone to and nor does the landlord. The landlord has written to me saying I owe the full rent for the next X months (till tenancy ends), plus the arrears she has left. There is also some money owed to the gas supplier. The account was always in my name. What do I do?"
  • G_M wrote: »
    I look forward with interest to your post in 4 weeks time:

    "I moved out of a property I was renting jointly with my ex 4 weeks ago. My ex promised to get the tenancy reassigned to herself and someone else.

    Unfortunately she has not found anyone acceptable to the landlord. What can I do? Am I still legally liable for the rent?"

    Followed shortly after by:

    " My ex could not afford the rent and has moved out leaving the property empty, but without giving notice. I don't know where she has gone to and nor does the landlord. The landlord has written to me saying I owe the full rent for the next X months (till tenancy ends), plus the arrears she has left. There is also some money owed to the gas supplier. The account was always in my name. What do I do?"

    I'm not sure there was any need for that, really.
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