We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Advice needed - transfer of funds from S&S ISA

noclaf
noclaf Posts: 1,006 Forumite
Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper
edited 9 September 2014 at 12:12PM in Savings & investments
Hi All

Ive currently got 8.5k in the bank (6k in isa, 2 k in savings a/c) and another 8k invested in various shares in a S&S ISA via HL.
Ive come to the conclusion that this split is way too risky, cannot stomach losing 40/50+% of the S&S ISA value if there was a market crash....not been a great yr for me on the markets overall.

current idea- close the s&s isa, transfer whole amount to my barclays savings a/c and then transfer whole lot incl cash isa (so lets say 16/16.5k in total) to a Santander 123 current a/c.I can save £800-1000 per month so the a/c will be at the magic 20k in a few months or so hopefully. Also note, I havent used any of this years ISA allowance, but am aware I would lose my old allowances if I close both cash isa and s&s isa...however with the total sum I have(16/17k)....should I even be bothered about isa's? (will need this money in next few years prbly for a property deposit)
any other suggestions would be welcome, thanks

edit: just to add maybe I should put 4k in two tsb a/c's (2k each) and rest in the santander?roughly would make me extra £80 per yr in interest
«1

Comments

  • Eco_Miser
    Eco_Miser Posts: 5,065 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    If you're going for all cash, in addition to the TSB and Santander accounts, you should put £5k in Lloyds Club for 4% AER, and £400 per month into the linked regular saver, also 4%. Also look at putting £300 per month in the First Direct Regular saver @ 6%.

    I wouldn't bother with cash ISAs. I can see why you're worried about your S&S ISA, losing a quarter of your wealth in a crash isn't nice, but remember the markets do bounce back higher after drops.
    Eco Miser
    Saving money for well over half a century
  • kidmugsy
    kidmugsy Posts: 12,709 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    noclaf wrote: »
    will need this money in next few years prbly for a property deposit

    Then it's safer in cash that in equities. Consider also the Nationwide FlexDirect.
    Free the dunston one next time too.
  • cheexy
    cheexy Posts: 472 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    kidmugsy wrote: »
    Then it's safer in cash that in equities. Consider also the Nationwide FlexDirect.

    Nationwide FlexDirect offers 5% on a maximum of £2500 but you would need to do a switch.
    £47605.33 outstanding in C.C (£8000 Interest free till January 2025)
  • Archi_Bald
    Archi_Bald Posts: 9,681 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    cheexy wrote: »
    Nationwide FlexDirect offers 5% on a maximum of £2500 but you would need to do a switch.


    Only reason for a switch is a switch bonus but that is completely separate from the interest you get. You do not have to switch to get the 5% in a FlexDirect.
  • noclaf
    noclaf Posts: 1,006 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 9 September 2014 at 6:46PM
    Ive decided to switch to Santander initially and got the ball rolling today...its not maximising potential interest but would rather start with this to keep things simple then look to open additional a/c's such as the TSB's,Nationwide flex etc
    Leaving barclays after being with them for more than half my life feels weird but paltry interest rates forced my hand!

    based on all your suggestions I knocked together the below..should be able to save £700 per month for the regular savers but not sure I will be able run all these a/c's simultaneously and satisfy their requirements if I use the Santander as my main current a/c. any thoughts/observations?

    Total funds Bank a/c balance interest £16,000.00 Santander £8,500.00 3% First Direct Regular Saver £300p/m 6% Nationwide flex £2,500.00 5% Lloyds Club £5,000.00 4% Lloyds regular saver £400 p/m 4%
  • gadgetmind
    gadgetmind Posts: 11,130 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    noclaf wrote: »
    not been a great yr for me on the markets overall.

    Really? Perhaps you need to revise your asset allocation (and ideally drive fees way down) first?

    However, you do feel you'll panic sell at the first downturn, and you don't have time to learn about how to make volatility work for you, then you do need to make changes.
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • noclaf
    noclaf Posts: 1,006 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper
    gadgetmind wrote: »
    Really? Perhaps you need to revise your asset allocation (and ideally drive fees way down) first?

    However, you do feel you'll panic sell at the first downturn, and you don't have time to learn about how to make volatility work for you, then you do need to make changes.

    combination of factors...I did panic sell a few times which was silly of me but after reading this forum wish I simply used a tracker like a Vanguard rather than individual shares esp with the transaction fee's which add up...my sipp used a Vanguard ls 80...up nearly 10% so far

    my proposed cash a/c setup should of read as below, does anyone here run anything like this with 5/6 accounts..how much hassle is it to setup the s/o & dd's to make it work?

    Santander £4,500.00 3%
    Nationwide flex £2,500.00 5%
    Lloyds Club £5,000.00 4%
    First Direct Regular Saver£300 p/m 6%
    Lloyds regular saver£400 p/m 4%
    TSB x 2 £4,000.00 5%
  • gadgetmind
    gadgetmind Posts: 11,130 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    noclaf wrote: »
    wish I simply used a tracker like a Vanguard rather than individual shares

    With all due respect, you really don't have enough invested to be able to use individual shares without taking on too much risk.

    But I guess you know that now!
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • noclaf
    noclaf Posts: 1,006 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper
    gadgetmind wrote: »
    With all due respect, you really don't have enough invested to be able to use individual shares without taking on too much risk.

    But I guess you know that now!


    we all learn eh :(
  • Eco_Miser
    Eco_Miser Posts: 5,065 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Standing Orders - no problem, just set them up online at the sending bank. Direct Debit - if you need more, Tesco Bank allows multiple DDs on both their Internet Saver and their Instant Access Saver - so two different if needed.
    Eco Miser
    Saving money for well over half a century
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.4K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.4K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 604K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.4K Life & Family
  • 261.5K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.