Help with a PCN from Civil Enforcement Ltd (Non registered keeper).

hello_world_5

Hi there,

Can someone help me please?

I've been on holiday and come back to a PCN from Civil Enforcement Ltd. The PCN Issue date was XX/8/2014 and the reported incident date was YY/7/2014.

The vehicle is a contract hire, which I've had for a year. The registered keeper is Volkswagen. I suspect that they gave CEL my name, but I've had no correspondence from them.

There is no letter, just a blue "parking charge notice" with the text:

"On xx/7/14 the above vehicle which was parked at:
Address: address1, address2, address3, postcode
from: xx:xx:xx to: yy:yy:yy

we therefore require payment of this Parking Charge Notice, in accordance with the Parking Terms and Conditions clearly stated on the signage: Authorized vehicles only"

"The amount of £100 must be paid within 28 days of the issue date above. If your remittance is received within 14 days of the issue date a reduced amount of £60 will be accepted."


Is there anything I can do... unfortunately I'm over the 14 days now. .

Thanks.

Redx

appeal it as keeper, seeing as its a hire car , its good to know that at least one hire company followed the correct procedures, trust the germans to know this simple aspect laid down by the BVRLA

details in the NEWBIES sticky thread you missed at the top of the forum

Dee140157

Moral of story, use a good hire company such as this that understands the rules.

Do however check your credit card to see of they have put an inflated charge on there to pass on your details. It is not unreasonable to have eg a £5 charge but certainly unreasonable of they charge you £35. You may have thins battle to fight as well as the bog standard appeal to the PPC.

But you won't be paying anything, certainly not £100 to the PPC.

Stroma

There's a very good reason why I have set my signature below so, and that is to try and stop people revealing who they are on an open public forum! CEL who monitors this forum knows exactly who you are, and will try everything to stop you appealing their charge, they will probably even say that you are out of time for appeal and all that garbage, or they didn't receive your appeal at all.

Now unless you want to pay this ticket/invoice appeal using the wording in the newbies thread, and send it off to the appeal address with a free proof of postage from the post office. Also appeal online or email if they offer that. Keep screenshots and receipts.

hello_world_5

Thanks Stroma; I've edited my message to remove the personal information.

Stroma

It's been there hours, it's like locking the gate after the horses have bolted. You've got to assume that they have clocked your post. Now as I said unless you plan to pay you need to appeal, because if you ignore this there is a more than fair chance that they will go to court. Or go back to the hire company and get them to pay.

This company is one of the worst out there, they issue claims, they are probably in the top 5 of the scum list of PPCs

Coupon-mad

Yep but there will be no court (CEL always lose anyway or never show up but that's another story!). This OP is in time to appeal so it's all good:

'The PCN Issue date was XX/8/2014'

This will be easy as pie to win at POPLA using our simple two-template appeal system shown in the Newbies sticky thread. @hello world, you can call yourself the keeper which is why I wrote the first appeal using that word (it's NOT the same as registered keeper).

Stroma

Yes but cel supposedly don't receive appeals quite often, so they will try and get this one lost in transit or whatever lies they come up with. That is why I said get proof of postage.

hello_world_5

I'm on the case - letter going out tomorrow. Thanks for your help, both of you.

hello_world_5

Ok, I've had a reply from them:

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(I'm a newbe, so I'm not allow (yet) to embed links directly!)

They've not given me anything I asked for in the form letter, but they have given a popla reference.

Umkomaas

Links to click

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