We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Tenants splitting up, one tenant wants to leave, the other stay

Counting_Pennies_2
Counting_Pennies_2 Posts: 3,979 Forumite
edited 29 August 2014 at 11:30PM in House buying, renting & selling
I wonder if you can help.


I have a property that I rent out to joint tenants. They were both credit checked and referenced at the beginning.


They have now split up and one is wanting to leave, we have been contacted by that person saying the other wants to stay we have not heard directly from that person.


The referencing and credit check was carried out based on both sharing the rent. We have a standard run of the mill company who carries out the checks and comes back to let us know if they are capable of paying the rent.


Now one party is leaving, the one who is planning on staying has changed jobs since the checks were carried out.


I have said that I need to hear directly from the tenant who wants to stay that this is indeed their intention and cannot just accept the notice of the one tenant, is this correct?


Also with the job changing, I am concerned at the ability to cover all the rent on their own and would prefer for the credit checks to be carried out again. Would this be reasonable too?


Thanks

Comments

  • dimbo61
    dimbo61 Posts: 13,727 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    This is a joint tenancy and if one of the tenants gives notice then both tenants should leave.
    You need to speak direct to the other tenant now.
    Call them in the morning.
  • anselld
    anselld Posts: 8,661 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper

    I have said that I need to hear directly from the tenant who wants to stay that this is indeed their intention and cannot just accept the notice of the one tenant, is this correct?

    That is not correct. The notice of one joint tenant (if correctly served) is sufficient to end a joint tenancy.

    It is up to you if you want to start a new tenancy with the other tenant, assuming that is their intention.
  • pmlindyloo
    pmlindyloo Posts: 13,095 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    According to this:

    http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/private_renting/private_renting_agreements/joint_tenancies

    what happens depends on whether it is a fixed tenancy or a periodic tenancy. The rules are different. Please read the link for further information.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    edited 30 August 2014 at 12:20PM
    1) one tenant leaving does not end the tenancy, nor end that tenant's obligations

    2) if the tenancy is periodic, notice given by either joint tenant can end the tenancy. If one tenant fails to leave (unless you grant them a new tenancy) double rent can be charged ([FONT=&quot]Distress For Rent Act 1747 S18[/FONT] )

    3) if the tenancy is in a fixed term, neither tenant can give notice to end the tenancy (unless there is a Break Clause, in which case all joint tenants must give notice)



    To deal with the situation you have options:

    1) agree to an Early Surrender of the tenancy. It will then end on whatever date you agree (pref in writing). Deposit returned etc as normal. You can then grant a new tenancy to the tenant who wishes to remain, assuming you wish to. Or grant a new joint tenancy if that tenant finds a new partner. Again, assuming you are happy

    2) IF the tenancy is ended by the tenants (2 above), then again, up to you if you grant a new tenancy

    3) you could Execute a Deed Of Variation on the existing tenancy, such that it continues, but with the departing joint tenant's name removed, (or substituted)

    Should you allow the remaing tenant to stay? Your choice! Are you confident he/she can afford the rent and will not get into arrears? Is there a good track record? Might a new joint tenant help (if he/she can find someone who both tenant and LL accept)?

    What is the current salary and what is the rent?
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.7K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.7K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.3K Life & Family
  • 258.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.