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I have a CCJ - what do I do?

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As I posted in another thread I thought the threats from Civil Enforcement were just bluffs, but I found out I have a CCJ today. I had no idea I could lose without going to court! So now what? I wasn't even driving the car and it was a Coop at 10pm. Do I wait for the bailiffs, pay up £215, appeal or nothing?
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  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    edited 27 August 2014 at 10:28PM
    well, you dont appear to have searched the forum before posting, otherwise you would find dozens of similar threads

    but here is the most recent one, with advice, please read it

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5047173

    ps:- if you have a CCJ, its already been to court, and judgement awarded to CEL

    pps:- not sure why you mentioned not being the driver, POFA 2012 makes the RK liable from oct 2012

    have you complained to the COOP like parking prankster advised months ago ?
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,362 Forumite
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    edited 28 August 2014 at 8:31AM
    I received one of these letters this week so have ignored the PCN, the final reminder and this on advice from a barrister friend (who also received the same as we were out together). The 'crime' was committed in Oct 2013. I'm going to continue ignoring any future correspondence.

    The "Notice of assignment of debt" letter was from

    Civil Enforcement Ltd
    Horton House
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    Liverpool L2 3PF

    They have assigned 87.5% to this organisation and say "..we have instructed Debt Enforcement & Action Limited to recover this remaining amount on our behalf". How they are going to do that ?

    She's your man (from your original post on this).

    But it's going to cost you £155 (recoverable if you win) to have this referred back to the court, and you're going to have to have all your ducks lined up from a legal point of view, so will need to either do lots of research to do this yourself, or get your friend to do it for you on either 'mates rates' or 'pro bono'.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    Presumably you are the registered keeper?

    Did you ignore the court papers too or have you moved home? If you have moved and the papers went to your previous address then that alone should see you successfully obtain a set aside order.

    As above I suggest you speak to your barrister friend. He will be able to guide you in far more detail than we can at a remove here bearing in mind he has detailed knowledge of the car park in question.
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
  • Thanks for the replies - I will speak to her tomorrow (Barristers aren't always men ;-)) but I guess if I pay the £215 the CCJ will be removed, much as I don't want to but this is the least hassle route and punishment for not reading the forums properly. Honestly, the letters AND the court papers looked like they had come off a child's printing press so I didn't think they were genuine - I know now...
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,362 Forumite
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    edited 28 August 2014 at 8:37AM
    Thanks for the replies - I will speak to her tomorrow (Barristers aren't always men ;-)) but I guess if I pay the £215 the CCJ will be removed, much as I don't want to but this is the least hassle route and punishment for not reading the forums properly. Honestly, the letters AND the court papers looked like they had come off a child's printing press so I didn't think they were genuine - I know now...

    Amended it for you :)
    She's your man.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • btw I did phone the COOP to complain but obviously could not get through to the right department as all I got was "it's not our problem"
  • bazster
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    Unless the CCJ was handed down less than a month ago paying it will NOT make it disappear. It will be marked as "satisfied" on your credit score but it'll still be there.

    The only way to make it disappear is to try to get it set aside and then fight the case (which, if you did it vigorously enough, you would win because CEL always backs down at the last minute or simply doesn't show up).
    Je suis Charlie.
  • esmerobbo
    esmerobbo Posts: 4,979 Forumite
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    Obtaining a set aside after ignoring a claim may be difficult.
  • bazster
    bazster Posts: 7,436 Forumite
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    esmerobbo wrote: »
    Obtaining a set aside after ignoring a claim may be difficult.

    Yes, I imagine so.
    Je suis Charlie.
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    so the lesson to be learned is that sometimes barristers are not up to speed on the aspects of private parking enforcement, contract law , MCOL and CCJ issues

    it would seem that you get better advice from some of the regulars on here than barristers having read this thread (I can only go off what I have read as I have no prior knowledge)

    I would hope Mr Beavis has a barrister that knows a lot more about these topics ;)
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