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Signage at Peel Centre

Parking-Prankster
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I am helping with some cases involving multiple tickets at the Peel Centre, spanning time periods of over a year.
I know the Peel centre has gone through a few evolutions of signage, but not when.
Does anyone have any information of exactly or even approximately when the signs changed, and pictures of the various versions.
I have pictures of the signs in place in Aug 2013 and would be interested in the signs between Martin Cutts case, 29 March 2010 and November 2013.
Bondylad, you may be my main hope!
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I know the Peel centre has gone through a few evolutions of signage, but not when.
Does anyone have any information of exactly or even approximately when the signs changed, and pictures of the various versions.
I have pictures of the signs in place in Aug 2013 and would be interested in the signs between Martin Cutts case, 29 March 2010 and November 2013.
Bondylad, you may be my main hope!
[EMAIL="prankster@parking-prankster.com"]prankster@parking-prankster.com[/EMAIL]
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hi there,,if you have pictures of the signage in aug 2013,these are the new ones that they introduced in late june or very beginning of july 2013,,i went to speak to staff in their hideaway cabin they have at the peel centre (yes,,the one tucked away in the very corner opp argos so no one can see them hiding behind cars) anyway they could not give me the exact date these signs were changed,this was in mid july 2013,, i presume it was at the same time they increased parking fees by 25%,,,it boils down to ,,,they were changed at the very end of june or the very very beginning of july 2013,,but no way could they give me an exact date,but deffo within that window,,prior to that following sir michael cutts victory,i am sure they added a small line(as in,something stuck on to original signs),but i dont have a photo,it was only about an inch or so high,impossible to read from car unless you have supermans powers,midway down the sign stating,,this is a 24 hour p&d car park,no one noticed this pathetic attempt of information,,,consequently many locals who always parked there after 6pm for free were ticketed with their toilet paper along with many folk not realising it was p&d then when the old signs were completely removed and the new ones put in(june/july 2013),,i have to say,,they were (sadly in my opinion perfectly clear) and you could read it in the dark,,,the signs were not only changed at the entrances but the ridiculous signage which was on the lamposts in and around the peel centre were also changed,so you could read them without binoculars,,,,even though the signs are now clear,they are not as regards disabled drivers with blue badges,as p&d machines are not always visible from bay if several other cars parked in and around them,,,,if i do come across these doctored old signs photo somehow ,i will let you know,but extremely doubtfull if i have one on an old phone,,,anything i can do in the quest to rid these you know whats from the peel centre do not hesitate to contact me.0
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Thanks. This means the signage was changed during the ticket issuing and so the evidence pack submitted to court is incorrect, at least for the earlier tickets.Hi, we’ve approved your signature. It's awesome. Please email the forum team if you want more praise - MSE ForumTeam0
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just to repeat,i live very close to peel centre,dont hesitate to ask if you need me to do anything. good luck in your quest.0
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Article from Feb 2012 by the Plain Language Commission linked below which states signs at Peel Centre hadn't changed since Martin Cutts case
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&docid=hiV-2YcKeOMGFM&tbnid=7521hM8GRkvSVM:&ved=0CAMQjhw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.clearest.co.uk%2Fnews%2F2011%2F12%2F8%2Fstockport_council_backs_down_over_excel%25E2%2580%2599s_bad_signs&ei=5tbxU52aL_SA7QblwYC4Aw&bvm=bv.73231344,d.ZGU&psig=AFQjCNGYewAPYC0vlizXBTrbsVu1cII_7g&ust=1408443797424350
Another article in Dec 2012 by the Plain Language Commission which may be useful is linked below. Has pictures of changed Entrance signs - though it does also say
"Other signs throughout the Peel Centre car park remain as bad as ever, with very small print and, in places, semiliterate and nonsensical text. Excel has covered up whole paragraphs with yellow tape, perhaps because the wording breaks current Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency rules. The DVLA recently suspended Excel for three months from getting lucrative access to its databank of drivers’ names and addresses after Excel broke DVLA rules."
And also
"The signs within the car park continue to say that drivers who break Excel’s rules may have their vehicles clamped and towed away, but clamping on private land has been illegal since October. "
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CGkQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.clearest.co.uk%2Fnews%2F2012%2F12%2F10%2Fmiracle_in_stockport%3A_%25E2%2580%2598legible%25E2%2580%2599_signs_become_six_times_bigger&ei=r8zxU9anMsqh7AaQsoHgAQ&usg=AFQjCNFS8FHD4uI7FNz2dl09BAHAaEvCNg&bvm=bv.73231344,d.ZGU
HTH0 -
this thread https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4911999 also confirms changes in july 2013 too0
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