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How much is standard to debit deposit for white goods?

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  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    FlyingCat wrote: »
    I think the distinction here is that although the items are still technically usable, they have been damaged (not normal wear and tear).

    If you were the new tenant, you wouldn't want to take a flat with broken/unsightly and damaged white goods would you?

    I think the landlord is right to ask for some money to either fix or replace them, hard to tell what's appropriate without seeing the damage, or looking into the costs of fixing the items. But on the face of it, I wouldn't say 50% of the initial costs of the items is ridiculous (maybe a tad high but would 10-20% less make much difference when split between 5 of you?)

    I'd say ~£250 off a deposit for 3 damaged white goods is not bad on the face of it. I have had £100 taken off from previous rental deposits for "cleaning"...despite the place being gutted and cleaned before leaving it.

    Those borken white good might still be there. LL does not have to replace.

    Like i said the % depends on the age, if these are ten years old, the OP owes nothing. literally not a penny, because the LL has not been deprived of any effective use of the item. He has had it and used it for its effective lifetime.

    You probably shouldve taken the £100 to the DPS.
  • FlyingCat
    FlyingCat Posts: 28 Forumite
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    Guest101 wrote: »
    Those borken white good might still be there. LL does not have to replace.

    Like i said the % depends on the age, if these are ten years old, the OP owes nothing. literally not a penny, because the LL has not been deprived of any effective use of the item. He has had it and used it for its effective lifetime.

    You probably shouldve taken the £100 to the DPS.

    It was in Scotland, so I think it's LPS up here (Letting Protection Service). My estate agent at the time never used that process (don't think it was used back then). My current lease does have this though.

    Much more protection for tenants now than back then!
  • sh13292
    sh13292 Posts: 5 Forumite
    Guest101 wrote: »
    Also true.

    This is going to go to DPS i think.

    What is DPS?
  • kyana
    kyana Posts: 93 Forumite
    deposit protection scheme.

    your landlord should have put your deposit into a dps and then the dps is responsible for releasing the deposit when the tenancy is over. i.e. the landlord has to justify to dps any deductions and can't just walk off with your money because they fancy it.
  • sh13292
    sh13292 Posts: 5 Forumite
    Ohh okay Thanks. It is protected, but they are threatening to charge us for some other things which they said they have been 'kind' enough to not charge for, so I don't want to aggravate them further. Feels like blackmail!
  • kyana
    kyana Posts: 93 Forumite
    my understanding is that they will have to justify everything to the dps and then they will decide how much is fair.
    it is due to the blackmailing or plain unscrupulous behaviour that the dps was introduced.
  • bouicca21
    bouicca21 Posts: 6,725 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Feels like blackmail because it is. They are taking advantage of you being young and green. Ask them for a written account of what the deductions are for. Ask for the age of the white goods. Might even be worth asking for make and model so you can source the cost of replacement yourself if necessary.

    Consider what they are claiming for carefully and if you disagree (which you probably will, based on this thread) tell them you are going to raise a dispute with whatever dps is involved.

    You do have details of the dps don't you? You didn't just rely on their word ...
  • RAS
    RAS Posts: 36,154 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Basic

    In which country is the rental as Scottish law is different?

    Is the deposit protected; if so in which scheme?

    Were you sent the presribed information within the 30 days.

    Roughly how old are the white goods?

    What else are they threatening to charge for?
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • Smi1er
    Smi1er Posts: 642 Forumite
    You damaged the LL's property, therefore he can charge you, but you already know this.


    He can either


    1/ Charge you the repair cost. You can get an indication of approx. costs by checking the part cost on the likes of espares. A reasonable labour charge would be £100. Receipts would need to be seen


    2/ He may choose to replace if too much to repair. In this case I would be asking to see the original purchase receipt. A dishwasher has an expected 6 year life. If it was 4 years ols already they I would expect you to contribute a third of the replacement cost, but only if repair was more than value of item.
  • Kynthia
    Kynthia Posts: 5,692 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    The landlord is entitled to have the property returned in the same condition you found it less fair wear and tear. The landlord is entitled to compensation at a reasonable amount, and not betterment, for damage (and i presume excessive wear and tear). So how did you leave the property compared to the check-in inventory? If not great then how much do you think it would cost to return it to that state, bearing in mind the age of the white good, carpets, decorative state, etc? Does £263 seem reasonable considering labour and call out charges of tradespeople, if not then dispute it and let the dps sort it out.
    Don't listen to me, I'm no expert!
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