Inflating salary

bristol_pilot

Marco_Brandon wrote: »

In terms of background checks I thought it was illegal for a new a employer to ask the old employer about my current salary?

No it's not. It's just that the current employer has to ask your permission to pass on the details. You don't give that permission and the new employer may decide to withdraw the job offer. Same with sickness information.

bristol_pilot

You can argue all you want, but I have a reference request on my desk right now requesting an ex-employee's salary info. Our HR procedure is to ask the individual's permission to pass on the information which we are in the process of doing. He has been told by the new company that the job offer depends on him giving permission for that plus a host of other information such as sickness record and reason for leaving.

chalomo

Don't know what industry you're in, but almost every time I've gone to a new company I've got at least a 10% pay rise (and usually more) - I always thought this was quite normal. So I'm not sure why you'd want to lie about your salary as the salary you want seems a reasonable next step from where you are already.

I'd never advise lying about salary (or anything else) when looking for a job, though. If the employer finds out, they're unlikely to be happy. If you want to fudge it, suggest doing what others have said and costing out the whole package. If nothing else, it'll help you compare the benefits of the new job with the old.

Marco_Brandon

chalomo wrote: »

Don't know what industry you're in, but almost every time I've gone to a new company I've got at least a 10% pay rise (and usually more) - I always thought this was quite normal. So I'm not sure why you'd want to lie about your salary as the salary you want seems a reasonable next step from where you are already.

I'd never advise lying about salary (or anything else) when looking for a job, though. If the employer finds out, they're unlikely to be happy. If you want to fudge it, suggest doing what others have said and costing out the whole package. If nothing else, it'll help you compare the benefits of the new job with the old.

I said from.the beginning keep your useless "opinions" to yourself. Only facts please.

stampede

Marco_Brandon wrote: »

Hi,

Unethical it may be but I am considering inflating my salary by £2,500. At the moment I am earning £25,000 but I am planning to inflate that to £27,500 in the hope of getting a market rate salary of £28,000 (ish).

Thanks

Little point in moving unless you get a fair bit more. P45 only gives what you've earned up to press, don't forget you can add bonuses on etc, which you may not have earned yet???

for that sort of difference, I can't see them even bothering about it.

InsideInsurance

Surprising large number of reference forms do ask for your current salary. Personally whenever I complete one of the forms I simply leave that field blank. I suspect that HR would see it as a potential DPA issue and so also wouldnt provide it.

P45 simply shows how much money you've been paid in the tax year to date. It doesnt show how much your salary is or hourly rate etc. There are plenty of reasons why you may have not earned as much as would be anticipated such as unpaid leave for extended holidays or sabbaticals etc

Voyager2002

Marco_Brandon wrote: »

I said from.the beginning keep your useless "opinions" to yourself. Only facts please.

Why should anyone help you, when you are so rude to people offering what is actually good advice?

Sinhanada

Marco_Brandon wrote: »

Hi,

I am considering looking for a new job at another firm as I just recently qualified and many firms are offering far more than my firm.

A lot of people I have met have always said they inflated their current salary slightly to get a slightly higher offer.

Unethical it may be but I am considering inflating my salary by £2,500. At the moment I am earning £25,000 but I am planning to inflate that to £27,500 in the hope of getting a market rate salary of £28,000 (ish).

What are the chances of getting caught? When I submit my P45 to HR at my new employer will HR know I lied? Specifically, would they communicate the details on my P45 to my line manager, company partner, director etc?

In terms of background checks I thought it was illegal for a new a employer to ask the old employer about my current salary?

I am very keen to hear from someone who has real experience in this and knows how it works.

If someone is keen on having a go at the ethical or moral issues with this then keep your thoughts to yourselves please.

Thanks

I would advise against this. When we approach references our form asks for current salary - if this is different to what you have specified to me I would reject the candidate on the reference alone.

Be honest, and when negotiating your salary state that you would be looking for £27,500.

Remember, nobody wants a dishonest employee

smifffy1989

As previous people have said I would quote package rather than salary.

Marco_Brandon

Spoke to my company HR again. They said apart from mortgage, finance or visa purposes they will never give out my salary. I can't even give permission for them to release my salary info if a new employer requests it. They keep their reference bock standard and simple. Start and end date of employment. Not even sick days. I guess if people stopped giving their opinions rather than facts we would have come to this conclusion earlier.